Re: copy&paste in vim inside screen that started from console (not started from under X)

ping <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnu.screen.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
kevin,
thanks for your time on that. but you forget " when you yank to 
register, so to yank things to X clipboard, type:
"+
not just +

yes I just tested your 2 more alternates out, here is the results:
option 1) the export DISPLAY method works great!
option 2) the ssh method also works in terms of copy&paste
I have to wait and see it survives across next X restart--I think it can.

and, I think this option2) also has its value given that option1 works, 
imaging I can create a screen from ssh remotely. starting screen from 
console I need to have physical access to my laptop...

thanks again! I hope other screen/vim-lovers also enjoy these workarounds.

regards
ping

On 08/02/2011 12:13 PM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:12 PM, ping <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     hi Kevin / Paul :
>     yes I think this might be vim issue. or , at least vim-screen integration issue.
>     but being able to use vim smoothly in screen is essential for my daily work and it is a big part of my use of screen.
>       
>     the steps to reproduce is quick simple:
>     1) c-s-5 to go to console 5
>     2) start screen : screen -S test
>     3) c-s-7 to go back X
>     4) screen -dR test to attach the screen
>     5) start vim in screen session 0 (or any other sessions)
>         vim
>     6) type "i" go into insert mode, then start to type anything there, for example:
>         some texts that I want to coy to editor geany
>         type<esc>  key to leave insert mode
>     7) shift-v to mark the line in vim, "+y to copy it into register "+
>
>     now at this point, ":registers" command shows the texts are in "0 "" and ". register, but not even in the "+ register.
>     I think that's why I can't paste it to any apps in X.
>
>
> This does not work for me either. But it does not work for me under X 
> or outside of screen either.  After shift-v, pressing + gives me a 
> system beep indicating some error. Pressing y does the usual yank.
>
>     and the "left button to mark and select and middle button to paste" method that usually works in X seems not work for vim, at least in my case...
>     its ok for other editors like nano.
>
> Using the mouse works fine for me.
>
>     I think the "left button text mark" was intercepted by vim for other usage. that said, if I disable mouse in vim(set mouse-=a), I'm ok
>     to achieve the same effect with that method. but again, I don't understand why vim "+ or "* register doesn't cooperatively work inside screen that started outside of X (from console in this case).
>
>     and, as what I usually did, if I start screen from inside X and start vim there (but vim won't survive accross X reboot, OK, that's another issue), with the help of these vimrc config:
>     if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
>                set term=xterm
>                let g:GNU_Screen_used = 1
>              else
>                let g:GNU_Screen_used = 0
>              endif
>     or even this:
>     if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
>        set term=xterm
>     endif
>
>     (see thishttp://vim.wikia.com/wiki/GNU_Screen_integration)
>
>     I can copy things to "+ or "* and then paste the content from these registers to X apps...
>
> This still did not work for me. I see nothing in the + register and 
> get the system beep.
>
>     I'm not sure if plugin fakeclip that another advice I got from this alias work or not (looks most for maxOS), I haven't try it yet...
>
>
> How about this idea. Under X, open an terminal. Then ssh to localhost. 
> Then start screen. The screen session should persist across X reboots 
> since sshd is started outside of X. You might want to experiment with 
> the -X and -Y option to ssh to see if that has any affect.
>
> Another idea. Do as before (start screen from a non-X console) and do 
> a "export DISPLAY=:0.0" or what every display you are on before 
> starting vim. Maybe vim and/or your mouse is using that to get to the 
> xclipboard.
>
>     thanks.
>
>     regards
>     ping
>
>
>
>     >  On 08/01/2011 04:28 PM, Paul Ackersviller wrote:
>
>     This is now just a problem with vim and not specific to screen, correct?
>     I don't know why any of the above is ever necessary, unless it's some sort
>     of workaround for the use of ttymouse.  If you're setting ttymouse in vim
>     (or maybe someone else is setting it for you), you need to hold down a shift
>     key for vim to ignore mouse clicks and pass them through to the terminal.
>
>
>
>     On 07/29/2011 02:16 PM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
>>     Ping,
>>
>>     I'm not a vim user, so I don't know what that code is supposed to
>>     do or how to use it. Can you provide the step by steps to
>>     reproduce the issue. You should be able to use the copy/paste
>>     feature of your window manager or X11. For me, I can highlight
>>     text with the mouse and then paste it with the middle mouse button.
>>
>>     Kevin
>>
>>     On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM, ping <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>         hi kevin:
>>         I tried that and it looks good, in terms that my apps inside
>>         screen now get retained across X reboot...but then I find
>>         another issue that make it hard to use this approach in practice:
>>         it looks now I can't copy$paste between vim and other apps,
>>         or even between vim instances I was running inside screen...
>>         previously I can at least achieve that with following vim config:
>>
>>         if match($TERM, "screen")!=-1
>>           set term=xterm
>>           let g:GNU_Screen_used = 1
>>         else
>>           let g:GNU_Screen_used = 0
>>         endif
>>
>>
>>         function! InScreen(command)
>>           return g:GNU_Screen_used ? 'screen '.a:command : a:command
>>         endfunction
>>
>>         I double maybe this related to the fact that, with this
>>         approach now screen (and all its child) is not a child of X,
>>         so it has problem to access the X selections or clipboards...
>>         any idea?
>>
>>         regards
>>         ping
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 07/07/2011 03:21 PM, ping wrote:
>>>         hi Kevin:
>>>         thanks and that sounds exactly what my issue was.
>>>         I'll try start screen from outside of X and see if it is ok.
>>>
>>>         regards
>>>         ping
>>>
>>>         On 07/07/2011 09:37 AM, Kevin Van Workum wrote:
>>>>         Ping,
>>>>
>>>>         If you start screen from an X session,  then screen is a
>>>>         child of X. So when X dies, so does screen. To do what you
>>>>         want, you would have to start screen outside of X.
>>>>
>>>>         There are many ways to do this. For example, you could
>>>>         start a screen session at boot time from rc.local. Or you
>>>>         could just switch to a different tty (e.g. ctrl-alt-F2) and
>>>>         start a new screen session there. Then go back to X
>>>>         (ctrl-alt-F7) and reattach to that screen session.
>>>>
>>>>         Kevin
>>>>
>>>>         On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:44 PM, ping
>>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>         wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             guys:
>>>>             I use screen for years and I'm happy with it.
>>>>             one thing annoyed me a lot is everytime when i need to
>>>>             reload X (it's not stable), and when I come back and
>>>>             find everything in my screen (vim, news, mutt, telnet,
>>>>             ssh,...everything) also went away, the session/windows
>>>>             are there though. searching the internet I haven't got
>>>>             much useful info.
>>>>             people are saying they use screen to get persistent
>>>>             sessions across X...how can i archive that?
>>>>
>>>>             thanks!
>>>>
>>>>             regards
>>>>             ping
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>
>>
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