Re: CS installation on Mac os x

Weltall <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.graphics.crystalspace.devel
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I've added that flag and tried my classic build and it worked well, so no
issues this side.

2012/5/31 Alexandru Voicu <[email protected]>

> It got merged to trunk in r34871.
> I will make the changes in a couple of days if everybody agrees with it
> (or rather if nobody disagrees with it).
>
> Alex.
>
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Weltall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> when was this merged?
>>
>>
>> 2012/5/31 Eric Sunshine <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Thanks for digging up those links to past discussions. Unfortunately,
>>> we never did learn exactly what the error was or what build flag was
>>> interacting poorly with -bundle. Since the bundle-related changes were
>>> never polished and were intended only for his GSOC branch, it probably
>>> would be reasonable to revert them on trunk and 2.0. Feel free to do
>>> so (unless someone comes up with an argument against reversion).
>>>
>>> -- ES
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Alexandru Voicu
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Hey Eric,
>>> >
>>> > I re-added the -bundle flag to PLUGIN.LFLAGS += "-bundle" ;
>>> > in CS/mk/jam/macosx.jam and libraries were compiled correctly
>>> (vfs.csbundle:
>>> > Mach-O bundle i386) and it works!! I can now run walktest and other
>>> projects
>>> > that don't have dependencies which I haven't yet install.
>>> >
>>> > The bundle flag has been removed on the lod branch by Eduardo so that
>>> it
>>> > worked on Mac 10.6
>>> > (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=25463144 and
>>> > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=25783176) and
>>> got
>>> > merged to trunk with the GSoC projects from 2010 (r34871). I am
>>> wondering if
>>> > we should restore it (or it would break for other versions of Mac,
>>> probably
>>> > 10.6).
>>> >
>>> > I'll write a section in the manual for setting up the environment in
>>> Mac
>>> > Lion 10.7.
>>> >
>>> > Many thanks Eric and Weltall for support!
>>> > Alex.
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Eric Sunshine <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Maybe the wrong build command is being used? I recall someone changing
>>> >> something in CS/mk/jam/macosx.jam or perhaps reporting something
>>> >> within the last year about CS using wrong build flags for modern
>>> >> Xcode; something to do with the -bundle flag.
>>> >>
>>> >> -- ES
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Alexandru Voicu
>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> > Regarding my concern related to the *.csbundle files (vfs.csbundle:
>>> >> > Mach-O
>>> >> > executable i386) which I believed might have to be libraries, I
>>> found
>>> >> >
>>> >> > this:
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1924452/what-can-cause-dlopen-no-suitable-image-found-cant-map
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So it might be the case there is a configuration problem (or
>>> setting the
>>> >> > environment correctly) like the export flags.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Alex.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Alexandru Voicu
>>> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Yes, the above tests were after introducing:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> export CFLAGS="-arch i386 -arch ppc"
>>> >> >> export LDLAGS="-arch i386 -arch ppc"
>>> >> >> export CXXFLAGS="-arch i386 -arch ppc"
>>> >> >> export CRYSTAL="/usr/CS/"
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I have just double checked and still the same "can't map unslidable
>>> >> >> segment __TEXT to 0x1000 with size 0x62000".
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Cheers,
>>> >> >> Alex.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Eric Sunshine
>>> >> >> <[email protected]>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> You probably shouldn't be using --enable-universal-binary at all.
>>> It's
>>> >> >>> only useful if you want to build for 32-bit Intel and PowerPC
>>> >> >>> architectures, but for the work you will be doing, you don't need
>>> to
>>> >> >>> do so. Building for Intel alone is fine. For
>>> --enable-universal-binary
>>> >> >>> to actually work, you need to have the PowerPC cross-build goop
>>> >> >>> installed, but you probably don't have it since, as far as I know,
>>> >> >>> Apple no longer ships it with modern Xcode. It works for Weltall
>>> >> >>> because he has a rather older toolchain installed.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> You may, however, want to try Weltall's advice of adding '-arch
>>> i386'
>>> >> >>> to CFLAGS, etc., and build afresh. Whether or not it will solve
>>> the
>>> >> >>> zlib "unslidable segment" issue is unknown, but it probably
>>> wouldn't
>>> >> >>> hurt to try.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> -- ES
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Alexandru Voicu
>>> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>> > With "--enable-universal-binary=yes" flag I get the "present but
>>> >> >>> > cannot
>>> >> >>> > be
>>> >> >>> > compiled" errors that I got previously and didn't know what to
>>> make
>>> >> >>> > of
>>> >> >>> > them
>>> >> >>> > (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=29230297
>>> ):
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > configure: WARNING: cxxabi.h: present but cannot be compiled
>>> >> >>> > configure: WARNING: cxxabi.h:     check for missing prerequisite
>>> >> >>> > headers?
>>> >> >>> > configure: WARNING: cxxabi.h: see the Autoconf documentation
>>> >> >>> > configure: WARNING: cxxabi.h:     section "Present But Cannot Be
>>> >> >>> > Compiled"
>>> >> >>> > configure: WARNING: cxxabi.h: proceeding with the compiler's
>>> result
>>> >> >>> > configure: WARNING:     ##
>>> >> >>> > -------------------------------------------------
>>> >> >>> > ##
>>> >> >>> > configure: WARNING:     ## Report this to
>>> >> >>> > [email protected]
>>> >> >>> > ##
>>> >> >>> > configure: WARNING:     ##
>>> >> >>> > -------------------------------------------------
>>> >> >>> > ##
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > Also none of the dependencies get recognize.
>>> >> >>> > If I remove the "--enable-universal-binary=yes flag" I get:
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > DLERROR (/usr/CS/vfs.csplugin): dlopen(/usr/CS/vfs.csbundle,
>>> 10): no
>>> >> >>> > suitable image found.  Did find:
>>> >> >>> > /usr/CS/vfs.csbundle: can't map unslidable segment __TEXT to
>>> 0x1000
>>> >> >>> > with
>>> >> >>> > size 0x62000
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > So I guess the question is what architecture will
>>> >> >>> > "--enable-universal-binary=yes" configure for compiling?
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > Cheers,
>>> >> >>> > Alex.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Weltall <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> this is the configure commands i use
>>> >> >>> >> ./configure --without-java --without-perl --without-python
>>> >> >>> >> --without-3ds
>>> >> >>> >> --with-cal3d=/Users/weltall/build/cal3d/ --disable-ptmalloc
>>> >> >>> >> --without-GTK
>>> >> >>> >> --enable-universal-binary=yes --enable-separate-sections
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> to note if using the 10.4 toolchain you must not build for
>>> 64bit
>>> >> >>> >> because
>>> >> >>> >> apple engineers thought it was a good idea to base cocoa on
>>> carbon
>>> >> >>> >> and
>>> >> >>> >> so
>>> >> >>> >> you'll end up using carbon when using cocoa, and as it's known
>>> >> >>> >> carbon
>>> >> >>> >> is
>>> >> >>> >> built only for 32bit so i add something like this:
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> export CFLAGS="-arch i386 -arch ppc"
>>> >> >>> >> export LDLAGS="-arch i386 -arch ppc"
>>> >> >>> >> export CXXFLAGS="-arch i386 -arch ppc"
>>> >> >>> >> export CRYSTAL="/Users/weltall/build/cs/"
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> in the environment before configure.
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> 2012/5/21 Eric Sunshine <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>> >>> You don't actually want to be building X11 on OSX. The
>>> --with-x
>>> >> >>> >>> flag
>>> >> >>> >>> is a
>>> >> >>> >>> semi-hidden way to tell configure not to build any of the
>>> >> >>> >>> Cocoa-specific
>>> >> >>> >>> components (that is, it provides an escape mechanism for
>>> building
>>> >> >>> >>> Darwin-only, but you shouldn't be doing that).
>>> >> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>> >>> -- ES
>>> >> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>> >>>
>>> >> >>> >>> On Sunday, May 20, 2012, Alexandru Voicu wrote:
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> Actually the X11 dependency might be an (the) issue.
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> I get the following error for xwin.csbundle:
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> LinkPlugin xwin.csbundle
>>> >> >>> >>>> could not find Xaw7 in search path
>>> >> >>> >>>> ...
>>> >> >>> >>>> ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture i386
>>> >> >>> >>>> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> export MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=10.4
>>> >> >>> >>>>     g++ -o xwin.csbundle
>>> >> >>> >>>> ./out/macosx/debug/plugins/video/canvas/xwindow/xwindow.o
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> ./out/macosx/debug/plugins/video/canvas/xwindow/xalert_xaw/alert.o
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> ./out/macosx/debug/plugins/video/canvas/xwindow/xalert_xaw/makeform.o
>>> >> >>> >>>> ./out/macosx/debug/plugins/video/canvas/xwindow/plugin_impl.o
>>> >> >>> >>>>  -lc
>>> >> >>> >>>> -lm -lmx
>>> >> >>> >>>> -ldl -L/usr/local/lib -g3 -Wl,-framework,AppKit
>>> >> >>> >>>> -Wl,-framework,Foundation
>>> >> >>> >>>>  ./out/macosx/debug/libs/libcrystalspace-2.1.a
>>> -L/opt/local/lib
>>> >> >>> >>>> -lz
>>> >> >>> >>>> -lXxf86vm `CC="gcc" CFLAGS="-pipe -Wmost -Wno-unknown-pragmas
>>> >> >>> >>>> -fvisibility=hidden -march=prescott -mfpmath=sse
>>> >> >>> >>>> -I/usr/local/include
>>> >> >>> >>>> -force_cpusubtype_ALL -fno-common -ffunction-sections
>>> >> >>> >>>> -fdata-sections -g3
>>> >> >>> >>>> -DCS_DEBUG" /bin/sh ./bin/relaytool --out-dir
>>> >> >>> >>>> ./out/macosx/debug/plugins/video/canvas/xwindow  --relay Xaw7
>>> >> >>> >>>> --relay Xaw
>>> >> >>> >>>> -lc -lm -lmx -ldl -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11/lib -lXaw7 -lXt
>>> >> >>> >>>> -lX11
>>> >> >>> >>>> -L/usr/X11/lib -lX11 -lXt -lX11` -lXcursor -lXrender
>>> >> >>> >>>> -L/usr/X11/lib
>>> >> >>> >>>> -lX11
>>> >> >>> >>>> -lXext -lc -lm -lmx -ldl -L/usr/local/lib -g3
>>> >> >>> >>>> -Wl,-framework,AppKit
>>> >> >>> >>>> -Wl,-framework,Foundation
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> Xaw7 is in the /usr/X11/lib along with X11.
>>> >> >>> >>>> I've tried setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH and DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH,
>>> but had
>>> >> >>> >>>> the
>>> >> >>> >>>> same result.
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> Thanks,
>>> >> >>> >>>> Alex.
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Alexandru Voicu
>>> >> >>> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> sudo ./configure --enable-debug with_x11=/usr/X11
>>> -without-assimp
>>> >> >>> >>>> -without-curl -without-python
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> And the configure recognizes the following packages (are
>>> there
>>> >> >>> >>>> any
>>> >> >>> >>>> required ones not present ?):
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> Found
>>> >> >>> >>>>   cg                   (rendering)
>>> >> >>> >>>>   freetype2            (other)
>>> >> >>> >>>>   jpeg                 (image)
>>> >> >>> >>>>   openal               (audio)
>>> >> >>> >>>>   opengl               (rendering)
>>> >> >>> >>>>   png                  (image)
>>> >> >>> >>>>   x11                  (rendering)
>>> >> >>> >>>>   zlib                 (other)
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> Cheers,
>>> >> >>> >>>> Alex.
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Weltall <[email protected]
>>> >
>>> >> >>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> what are you passing at configure?
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> 2012/5/20 Alexandru Voicu <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> I was trying to figure out if my dependencies are the same
>>> >> >>> >>>> architecture
>>> >> >>> >>>> as my executable, using the file command.
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> While doing that I have noticed that for walktest I have:
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> file /usr/CS/walktest.app/Contents/MacOS/walktest
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> /usr/CS/walktest.app/Contents/MacOS/walktest: Mach-O
>>> >> >>> >>>> executable i386
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> but for vfs.csbundle, I also have:
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> file /usr/CS/vfs.csbundle
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> /usr/CS/vfs.csbundle: Mach-O executable i386
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> Shouldn't this be Mach-O dynamically linked shared library
>>> i386
>>> >> >>> >>>> rather
>>> >> >>> >>>> than executable i386 ?
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> Moreover, I did this for most of the libraries, but for some
>>> I
>>> >> >>> >>>> don't
>>> >> >>> >>>> know which are used by CS by default. If I create a lib
>>> directory
>>> >> >>> >>>> in
>>> >> >>> >>>> CS will
>>> >> >>> >>>> they be chosen from there?
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> Thanks again,
>>> >> >>> >>>> Alex.
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Eric Sunshine
>>> >> >>> >>>> <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> It looks like you have CS installed at two locations,
>>> >> >>> >>>> /usr/local/lib/crystalspace-2.1 and /usr/CS/, and most of the
>>> >> >>> >>>> warnings
>>> >> >>> >>>> in the log stem from that issue.
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> The actual error from the log, however, is this:
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> DLERROR (/usr/CS/vfs.csplugin): dlopen(/usr/CS/vfs.csbundle,
>>> 10):
>>> >> >>> >>>> no
>>> >> >>> >>>> suitable image found.  Did find:
>>> >> >>> >>>>        /usr/CS/vfs.csbundle: can't map unslidable segment
>>> __TEXT
>>> >> >>> >>>> to
>>> >> >>> >>>> 0x1000
>>> >> >>> >>>> with size 0x62000
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> Googling this error doesn't reveal much, but it very well
>>> could
>>> >> >>> >>>> be
>>> >> >>> >>>> due
>>> >> >>> >>>> to the fact that the 3rd-party dependencies were built with a
>>> >> >>> >>>> different compiler, or it could be an issue with how the
>>> tools
>>> >> >>> >>>> were
>>> >> >>> >>>> invoked to build CS itself.
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> -- ES
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>>
>>> >> >>> >>>> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Alexandru Voicu
>>> >> >>> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >>>> > I have attached to the thread as well.
>>> >> >>> >>>> > Sorry for the double email.
>>> >> >>> >>>> >
>>> >> >>> >>>> > Alex.
>>> >> >>> >>>> >
>>> >> >>> >>>> >
>>> >> >>> >>>> > On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Alexandru Voicu
>>> >> >>> >>>> > <
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