Re: Fixed. Next Q :)

P.S.

If you would like to get an idea of where I am going you can take a 
look at the previous work I did for my MSc: 
www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~leclerc

Quoting Gerald de Jong <[email protected]>:

> On Friday 23 July 2004 07:18, [email protected] wrote:
> > I seem to have "fixed" the problem of the plane not showing up by
> > moving the objects farther in the distance. It is visible then.
> 
> that would happen automatically if the whole thing was being animated
> like in 
> the main application.
> 
> > That said I am still having trouble turning on the physics
> manually. I
> > have set all the flags but I must have to fire an event somewhere.
> The
> > code seems to be very event driven and seems to be very coupled to
> a
> > GUI driven interface to control state and behaviour.
> 
> i disagree.  the fabric code is completely unaware of any GUI
> whatsoever.  in 
> fact, when i do the evolution, i do so with no GUI, and the fabric
> runs 
> lightning fast "in the dark".
> 
> the JOGL code is tied together with GUI because, well, it is GUI. 
> controlling 
> it is all done with Swing stuff.
> 
> > As well, it seems to "contort" stangely when it first starts before
> it
> > sets into its resting position. am pretty sure I positioned
> everything
> > correctly. I am wondering if there is some default values I forgot
> to
> > set on the intervals created in the MyFabricFactory.
> 
> i'm still having trouble figuring out what it is you want to create. 
> if you 
> want a cube, just write the XML in a ".fabric" file and load it up! 
> much 
> easier than re-coding the GUI.
> 
> > Again I am submitting my "HelloWorld" example if anyone wants to
> look
> > over this and offer suggestions. I am trying to get some bare
> bones
> > code to understand the essential components, how to drive how to
> drive
> > behaviour, and understand the realtionships between the.
> Hopefully
> > this will touch on all the essentials without having to navigate
> > through the GUI portion.
> 
> the essentials are in the "fabric", "factory", "sphere" and "visitor"
> 
> packages.  the rest is GUI.
> 
> > As well, I am still interested in displaying spheres on each
> vertex.
> 
> that's very easy, because as you have seen, spheres are already done.
>   you'd 
> only have to adjust the method:
> 
> private void decorate(Joint theJoint) 
> 
> in JoglFabric.java
> 
> it could be made switchable in the GUI.  i personally find the
> vertexes far 
> less interesting than the intervals.  why do you want to display
> spheres?
> 
> > My plan is to extend the engine Gerald has built and integrate it
> with
> > my own code which develops the morphology and neural networks of
> > virtual creatures.
> 
> now you're talkin`!
> 
> > Each sphere then will represent an individual cell. 
> 
> why not take intervals to be cells?  think different.
> 
> > The idea is that the evolved neural networks will then take control
> of
> > certian elastics which will act like muscles. The others which are
> not
> > controled by actuator neurons will simply be there to stabalize
> the
> > shape and give it a defined, low energy morphology.
> 
> sounds not unlike what i've been doing, although i've avoided NN. 
> how do you 
> expect to _train_ the networks.
> 
> > Again, two files below. I am avoiding anything fancy so you should
> be
> > able to just add them to a directory in the fluidiom package and
> > execute
> 
> maybe you should take a closer look at the existing code that gets
> everything 
> rolling.  just copy it and strip out whatever's irrelevant to what
> you want 
> to do.
> 
> better yet, think of a way to integrate your work using visitors and
> something 
> like the MuscleActivator that makes the creatures run.  there's an
> advantage 
> to trying to fit it in rather than rebuild the frontend.   i'm sure
> there 
> will be a way to do build more plugin-style, because the visitors can
> travel 
> anywhere they please.
> 
> PS.  i presume that you will also share your code, GPL?
> 
> -- 
> Gerald de Jong
> Beautiful Code BV
> Rotterdam, NL
> 
> 
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