Re: gnuplot.info unreachable (DNS failure)
Ethan A Merritt <[email protected]> Wed, 10 Sep 2025 10:51:08 -0700
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--===============6332102989547065109== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000661fc0063e761137" --000000000000661fc0063e761137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 5:53=E2=80=AFAM Philipp K. Janert via gnuplot-beta = < [email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:19:58 -0700 > Ethan A Merritt <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't want to be a stickler, but I don't > think changing the docs from "gnuplot.info" > to "www.gnuplot.info" is really the right > way to think about it. [shrug] That's the only part of it I can do myself, and it takes effect immediately. The on-line docs now work again (as seen from here), whereas access was failing yesterday. I hope someone else can arrange a more global long-term fix or at least identify what that fix would be. > The domain/server should be configured to > accept both versions and serve the appropriate > content. That's pretty standard issue, in my > experience. To the limited extent that I understand the error messages that I am seeing= , it is not a matter of appropriate content on the server. The query is neve= r getting to the server because some intermediate service provider is failing to deliver it. If I am misunderstanding and there is some configuration thing I can change on the SourceForge end, please let me know. Ethan Best, > > Ph. > > > On Tuesday, 9 September 2025 14:22:58 PDT Hans-Bernhard Br=C3=B6ker wro= te: > > > > > Ethan can't link to gnuplot.info (note: no leading www.). > > > > Good point. I typed the address into the browser directly because > > Phillipp's reported error message was > > "Firefox does not trust this site because it uses a certificate > > that is not valid for gnuplot.info" > > > > > [...] also fails, with a > > > "DNS resolution error 1001" reported by Cloudflare. > > > Which is strange, as tracert did get an IP, i.e. DNS actually > > > works. > > > > Yes. That's the one I'm seeing. It's an internal error message from > > Cloudflare that I get when I request either > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2= wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X= 1lxPgQ2mvA$ > or > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh= 2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4= X1lxK_p5wIQ$ > > > > It does work if I request > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklb= xAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6G= T_4X1lxJY2e2hg$ > (Chrome or > > Firefox browsers). > > > > The hyperlink references in the pdf version of the user manual use > > the > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklb= xAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6G= T_4X1lxJY2e2hg$ > form. But the html versions of the manual use > > the gnuplot.info form [no www] everywhere. > > > > That much I can fix. > > I will modify the gnuplot.doc inline html tables and the code in > > doc2web.c to always generate output with the www prefix in the URL. > > > > However it is probably a common "mistake" for users to omit the www > > prefix in web queries since that is no longer as near-universal as it > > once was. For that matter Chrome actively hides the "www." prefix > > when it shows the current site in the bar at the top, so a > > cut-and-paste may fail to capture the full, working, address. > > > > Ethan > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnuplot-beta mailing list > > [email protected] > > Membership management via: > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/= gnuplot-beta__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPW= S_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1lypuFKcMA$ > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnuplot-beta mailing list > [email protected] > Membership management via: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/= gnuplot-beta__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPW= S_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1lypuFKcMA$ > --=20 Ethan A Merritt Department of Biochemistry University of Washington, Seattle --000000000000661fc0063e761137 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote g= mail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 10,= 2025 at 5:53=E2=80=AFAM Philipp K. Janert via gnuplot-beta <<a href=3D"= mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= et</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi= n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex= ">On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 16:19:58 -0700<br> Ethan A Merritt <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">mer= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> <br><br> I don't want to be a stickler, but I don't <br> think changing the docs from "<a href=3D"http://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"n= oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.info</a>"=C2=A0<br> to "<a href=3D"http://www.gnuplot.info">www.gnuplot.info</a>" is = really the right<br> way to think about it.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>[shrug]=C2=A0 That&#= 39;s the only part of it I can do myself, and it takes effect immediately.<= /div><div>The on-line docs now work again (as seen from here), whereas acce= ss was</div><div>failing yesterday. I hope someone else can arrange a more = global long-term fix</div><div>or at least identify what that fix would be.= </div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px = 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br> The domain/server should be configured to<br> accept both versions and serve the appropriate<br> content. That's pretty standard issue, in my<br> experience.</blockquote><div>=C2=A0</div><div>To the limited extent that I = understand the error messages that I am seeing,</div><div>it is not a matte= r of appropriate content on the server.=C2=A0 The query is never</div><div>= getting to the server because some intermediate service provider is failing= to</div><div>deliver it.=C2=A0 If I am misunderstanding and there is some = configuration thing I</div><div>can change on the SourceForge end, please l= et me know.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Ethan</div><div><br></div= ><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border= -left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0</blockquote><bloc= kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:= 1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Best,<br> <br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ph.<br> </blockquote><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo= te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204= );padding-left:1ex">> On Tuesday, 9 September 2025 14:22:58 PDT Hans-Ber= nhard Br=C3=B6ker wrote:<br>> <br> > > Ethan can't link to <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"no= referrer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.info</a> (note: no leading www.).=C2=A0= <br> > <br> > Good point.=C2=A0 I typed the address into the browser directly becaus= e<br> > Phillipp's reported error message was <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Firefox does not trust this site because it uses a = certificate<br> > that is not valid for <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferre= r" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.info</a>"<br> >=C2=A0 <br> > > [...] also fails, with a<br> > > "DNS resolution error 1001"=C2=A0 reported by Cloudflar= e. <br> > > Which is strange, as tracert did get an IP,=C2=A0 i.e. DNS actual= ly<br> > > works.=C2=A0 <br> > <br> > Yes.=C2=A0 That's the one I'm seeing.=C2=A0 It's an intern= al error message from<br> > Cloudflare that I get when I request either <a href=3D"https://urldefe= nse.com/v3/__http://gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHT= SmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1lxPgQ2mvA$" rel= =3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://gnuplo= t.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt= 9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1lxPgQ2mvA$</a>=C2=A0 or<br> > <a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m= 0Vt54!hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KI= xOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1lxK_p5wIQ$" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://ur= ldefense.com/v3/__https://gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAG= HDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1lxK_p5wIQ$= </a> <br> > <br> > It does work if I request <a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:= //www.gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu= -N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1lxJY2e2hg$" rel=3D"noreferrer"= target=3D"_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!!= K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOH= Uge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1lxJY2e2hg$</a>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Chrome or<br> > Firefox browsers).<br> > <br> > The hyperlink references in the pdf version of the user manual=C2=A0 u= se<br> > the <a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!= !K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gO= HUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1lxJY2e2hg$" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">htt= ps://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2w= g2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1= lxJY2e2hg$</a>=C2=A0 form.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 But the html versions of the manual= use<br> > the <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blan= k">gnuplot.info</a> form [no www] everywhere.<br> > <br> > That much I can fix.<br> > I will modify the gnuplot.doc inline html tables and the code in<br> > doc2web.c to always generate output with the www prefix in the URL. <b= r> > <br> > However it is probably a common "mistake" for users to omit = the www<br> > prefix in web queries since that is no longer as near-universal as it<= br> > once was.=C2=A0 For that matter Chrome actively hides the "www.&q= uot; prefix<br> > when it shows the current site in the bar at the top, so a<br> > cut-and-paste may fail to capture the full, working, address.<br> > <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ethan<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > _______________________________________________<br> > gnuplot-beta mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank= ">[email protected]</a><br> > Membership management via:<br> > <a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.sourceforge.net/l= ists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPs= g4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1lypuFKcMA$" rel=3D"nor= eferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.source= forge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAGH= DtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1lypuFKcMA$<= /a> <br> <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> gnuplot-beta mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">gnu= [email protected]</a><br> Membership management via: <a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://l= ists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hKklbxAh2w= g2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZdyCw6GT_4X1= lypuFKcMA$" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/= __https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54= !hKklbxAh2wg2JWTINjAGHDtkHTSmzmPsg4w5G1Zu-N3BPWS_Fszt9uVqK6s9gOHUge9KIxOjuZ= dyCw6GT_4X1lypuFKcMA$</a> <br> </blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div><br></div><span class= =3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_s= ignature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family:monospace"><span styl= e=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">Ethan A Merritt </span><br>Department of Biochemistry<br>University of Washington, Seattle<= br> <br></span></div></div></div> --000000000000661fc0063e761137-- --===============6332102989547065109== Content-Type: text/plain; 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