Re: gnuplot.info unreachable (test.gnuplot.info?)
Clark Gaylord <[email protected]> Fri, 12 Sep 2025 22:41:14 -0400
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--===============8705833563749545909== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d3d0d6063ea5b4fe" --000000000000d3d0d6063ea5b4fe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It does include subdomain =F0=9F=98=81 I have DNS in Hover and I don't think I pay anything beyond the domains. I'll have to look into what I did with test -- it's so long since I set it up. I removed the AAAA record on the main domain for now. That shouldn't be giving a cert error no matter what -- it'll either work or not. Years ago I had this janky setup with the AAAA pointing to a server I had at VT that got a daily rsync. Definitely not tls friendly, but it gave us IPv6 and actually performed a lot better than SF. But that setup is long gone. I was thinking SF had a legit IPv6 service and that's what I configured, but that was at least a few years ago. I think I'll have some time this weekend to unpack all that and remind myself how this was supposed to work. SF not having IPv6 in 2025 is pretty inexcusable, but then they're up there with GitHub.... Again, I seem to recall they had an IPv6 approach a few years ago when I set it up but I'll refresh my memory. In the meantime I've (begrudgingly) removed the AAAA. But as far as the domain, yes I've prepaid 10 years (I think it's actually renewed once)... Cheers --ckg Clark Gaylord [email protected] On Thu, Sep 11, 2025, 14:12 Ethan A Merritt <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thursday, 11 September 2025 10:08:31 PDT Juh=C3=A1sz P=C3=A9ter wrote: > > The plot thickens. > > > > I wanted to check on crt.sh (a certificate search facility) what certs > > were issued for gnuplot.info in the past. To my surprise, I didn't find > > any. However, they list test.gnuplot.info (and www.test.gnuplot.info) > > for which a certificate was issued first on 2024-03-02 and renewed ever > > since. And indeed, test.gnuplot.info does work with https. > > > > I did not know that this domain exists. Should it? > > Peter > > > I think Clark Gaylord may be the best, if not the only, person to answer > this. > (CC'ed on this reply). > > Clark said last month that the gnuplot.info domain was set up > "on ten year pre payment with auto renew". > I don't know whether that includes subdomains or not. > Please excuse my ignorance. I don't even know what a "certificate" means > in this context, or how it fits in with domain registration. > > Anyhow, sourceforge supprt has acknowledged the request I made to > them to enable https for gnuplot.info so that may yet take care of it. > If there is something else I should ask them for, please let me know. > > Ethan > > > > On Wed, 2025-09-10 at 20:17 -0700, Ethan A Merritt wrote: > > > Thanks for the pointers. > > > > > > After poking around in the SourceForge admin pages I found a place to > > > set up "virtual domains". Both gnuplot.info and www.gnuplot.info are > > > already listed there. That same page states that https access can be > > > enabled by request, so I placed a support request with the > > > SourceForge site itself to enable https access via gnuplot.info and > > > www.gnuplot.info. We'll see what happens. > > > > > > Support tracker: > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/27031/ > > > Ethan > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 5:18=E2=80=AFPM Mojca Miklavec Groenhuis > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 11 Sept 2025, 00: 45 Ethan A Merritt, <merritt@ uw. edu> > > > > wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 11: 35 AM Juh=C3=A1sz P=C3=A9ter > > > > <peter. juhasz83@ gmail. com> wrote: The error message means that > > > > the certificate required to serve the site over HTTPS > > > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This Message Is From an Untrusted Sender > > > > > > > > You have not previously corresponded with this sender. > > > > > > > > See https://itconnect.uw.edu/email-tags for additional information= . > > > > Please contact the UW-IT Service Center, [email protected] 206.221.5000, > > > > for assistance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 11 Sept 2025, 00:45 Ethan A Merritt, <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 11:35=E2=80=AFAM Juh=C3=A1sz P=C3=A9ter > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The error message means that the certificate required to serve > > > > > > the site over HTTPS is not valid for the domain name > > > > > > gnuplot.info [1] (nor > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!gtNM2= Sc78gL-Ysg1zk84my1iRsUDO5YKxseY7vQ_6VDym0S2hHL0HhcytN_F1Emi3Mk6-vt_iZU8RIDo= RuWGjXY$ > [2]). If you look at the > > > > > > certificate (offered by Firefox next to the error message), you > > > > > > can see that it was issued by Let's Encrypt to > > > > > > secureprojects.sourceforge.net [3], and it is valid for a large > > > > > > selection of other domain names, presumably all projects hosted > > > > > > by SF. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your insights. > > > > > > > > > > I think you are addressing a different issue - whether the > > > > > connection protocol is https or http. > > > > > > > > Yes, this is not about DNS failure. I don't experience DNS failure, > > > > but see precisely the same errors/issues as Peter described. > > > > > > > > (Nowadays http should actually redirect to https. Modern browsers > > > > also refuse to show http pages.) > > > > > > > > > It is not surprising that a certificate issued to SourceForge > > > > > would not mention gnuplot.info [1] by name because that name is > > > > > not connected to SourceForge except in that (as I understand it) > > > > > it currently redirects queries to the actual gnuplot site > > > > > gnuplot.sourceforge.net [4]. > > > > > > > > Except that it does matter for https. The hosting site needs to > > > > know that the certificate should also be for gnuplot.info [1] and > > > > it needs to be explicit whether that is with or without www (or > > > > both). > > > > Either a separate certificate is needed for that, or the > > > > certificate used needs to be made aware that it needs to cover > > > > gnuplot.info [1]. This really needs to be fixed on the hosting > > > > site, and usually the person in charge of the DNS is also needed in > > > > the process of making it work. > > > > > > > > Unless the administrators of gnuplot on SF have access to > > > > certificate settings (means you would also need to create and > > > > extend your own certificate), then SF support is really needed here > > > > to set it up. > > > > > > > > > The current problem seems to be that the redirection itself fails > > > > > in some cases, or fails to pass through sufficient information > > > > > > > > No. It's really a misconfigured site/certificate. > > > > > > > > > You still see the site, correct? > > > > > > > > Well ... yes and no, but the more correct answer is probably NO. By > > > > default you don't see the site because the web browser is > > > > protecting you from "the malicious site" until you approve an > > > > exception and security risk, but that is "an advanced use" (it is > > > > on purpose made difficult to do that). > > > > > > > > > For completeness I should mention that the issue of connection > > > > > via IPv6 as opposed to IPv4 was raised earlier, and might be > > > > > relevant, > > > > > > > > It is possible that the site works correctly on IPv4 and fails with > > > > IPv6. My network right now doesn't support IPv6, so it's hard for > > > > me to check. It is unrelated to certificate issues, but it could > > > > hypothetically explain why DNS works for others and not for you if > > > > you have IPv6. (By correctly I mean resolving to the correct > > > > website. It still doesn't serve a compliant certificate.) > > > > > > > > Mojca > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] gnuplot.info > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!koofFjCmB= lGlxmtOCelbImz1v5loEhcR-xo6w0JLq8fvwUwklPYjMJSMeOq-e-_jCe9wWKl4ZSgERWeODc4D= 2Pme$ > > [2] > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!gtNM2= Sc78gL-Ysg1zk84my1iRsUDO5YKxseY7vQ_6VDym0S2hHL0HhcytN_F1Emi3Mk6-vt_iZU8RIDo= RuWGjXY$ > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hZAtT= CSEA3UZsTRDYd1Rlg-J8_Oq7DJZg-cJMaMoMBMcyZx3lwvCVqHE401p-ZikRUWZruc71FaDNhZk= YYE3tw4$ > > [3] secureprojects.sourceforge.net > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://secureprojects.sourceforge.net__;!!K-H= z7m0Vt54!koofFjCmBlGlxmtOCelbImz1v5loEhcR-xo6w0JLq8fvwUwklPYjMJSMeOq-e-_jCe= 9wWKl4ZSgERWeODadFrph0$ > > [4] gnuplot.sourceforge.net > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt5= 4!koofFjCmBlGlxmtOCelbImz1v5loEhcR-xo6w0JLq8fvwUwklPYjMJSMeOq-e-_jCe9wWKl4Z= SgERWeODckxZJT_$ > > > > > -- > Ethan A Merritt > Department of Biochemistry > University of Washington, Seattle > > > --000000000000d3d0d6063ea5b4fe Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div>It does include subdomain =F0=9F=98=81</div><div dir= =3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I have DNS in Hover and I don't t= hink I pay anything beyond the domains. I'll have to look into what I d= id with test -- it's so long since I set it up. I removed the AAAA reco= rd on the main domain for now. That shouldn't be giving a cert error no= matter what -- it'll either work or not.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></= div><div dir=3D"auto">Years ago I had this janky setup with the AAAA pointi= ng to a server I had at VT that got a daily rsync. Definitely not tls frien= dly, but it gave us IPv6 and actually performed a lot better than SF. But t= hat setup is long gone. I was thinking SF had a legit IPv6 service and that= 's what I configured, but that was at least a few years ago.</div><div>= <br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I think I'll have some time this weekend to= unpack all that and remind myself how this was supposed to work. SF not ha= ving IPv6 in 2025 is pretty inexcusable, but then they're up there with= GitHub.... Again, I seem to recall they had an IPv6 approach a few years a= go when I set it up but I'll refresh my memory. In the meantime I'v= e (begrudgingly) removed the AAAA.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div di= r=3D"auto">But as far as the domain, yes I've prepaid 10 years (I think= it's actually renewed once)...</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d= ir=3D"auto">Cheers</div><div dir=3D"auto">--ckg</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>= </div><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Clark Gaylord<br><a href=3D"m= ailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a= ></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir= =3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 11, 2025, 14:12 Ethan A Merritt &= lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br></div= ><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border= -left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Thursday, 11 Septembe= r 2025 10:08:31 PDT Juh=C3=A1sz P=C3=A9ter wrote:<br> > The plot thickens.<br> > <br> > I wanted to check on crt.sh (a certificate search facility) what certs= <br> > were issued for <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferrer nore= ferrer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.info</a> in the past. To my surprise, I d= idn't find<br> > any. However, they list <a href=3D"http://test.gnuplot.info" rel=3D"no= referrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">test.gnuplot.info</a> (and <a href= =3D"http://www.test.gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_= blank">www.test.gnuplot.info</a>)<br> > for which a certificate was issued first on 2024-03-02 and renewed eve= r<br> > since. And indeed, <a href=3D"http://test.gnuplot.info" rel=3D"norefer= rer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">test.gnuplot.info</a> does work with http= s.<br> > <br> > I did not know that this domain exists. Should it?<br> > Peter<br> <br> <br> I think Clark Gaylord may be the best, if not the only, person to answer th= is.<br> (CC'ed on this reply).<br> <br> Clark said last month that the <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noref= errer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.info</a> domain was set up<br> "on ten year pre payment with auto renew".<br> I don't know whether that includes subdomains or not.<br> Please excuse my ignorance.=C2=A0 I don't even know what a "certif= icate" means<br> in this context, or how it fits in with domain registration.=C2=A0 <br> <br> Anyhow, sourceforge supprt has acknowledged the request I made to<br> them to enable https for <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferrer = noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.info</a> so that may yet take care of= it.<br> If there is something else I should ask them for, please let me know.<br> <br> =C2=A0Ethan<br> <br> <br> > On Wed, 2025-09-10 at 20:17 -0700, Ethan A Merritt wrote:<br> > > Thanks for the pointers. <br> > > <br> > > After poking around in the SourceForge admin pages I found a plac= e to<br> > > set up "virtual domains". Both <a href=3D"http://gnuplo= t.info" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.info</a> an= d <a href=3D"http://www.gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target= =3D"_blank">www.gnuplot.info</a> are<br> > > already listed there. That same page states that https access can= be<br> > > enabled by request, so I placed a support request with the<br> > > SourceForge site itself to enable https access via <a href=3D"htt= p://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.i= nfo</a> and<br> > > <a href=3D"http://www.gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"= target=3D"_blank">www.gnuplot.info</a>.=C2=A0 We'll see what happens.<= br> > > <br> > > Support tracker:<br> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/si= te-support/27031/" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://= sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/27031/</a><br> > >=C2=A0 Ethan<br> <br> <br> > > <br> > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 5:18=E2=80=AFPM Mojca Miklavec Groenhuis<= br> > > <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_= blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > > > On Thu, 11 Sept 2025, 00:=E2=80=8A45 Ethan A Merritt, <me= rritt@=E2=80=8Auw.=E2=80=8Aedu><br> > > > wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 11:=E2=80=8A35 AM Juh=C3=A1sz= P=C3=A9ter<br> > > > <peter.=E2=80=8Ajuhasz83@=E2=80=8Agmail.=E2=80=8Acom> = wrote: The error message means that<br> > > > the certificate required to serve the site over HTTPS<br> > > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart<br> > > > <br> > > > <br> > > > <br> > > > This Message Is From an Untrusted Sender <br> > > > <br> > > > You have not previously corresponded with this sender. <br> > > > <br> > > > See <a href=3D"https://itconnect.uw.edu/email-tags" rel=3D"n= oreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://itconnect.uw.edu/email-tags= </a>=C2=A0 for additional information.<br> > > > Please contact the UW-IT Service Center, <a href=3D"mailto:h= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a> 206.221.50= 00,<br> > > > for assistance. <br> > > > <br> > > > <br> > > >=C2=A0 <br> > > > <br> > > > ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd<br> > > > <br> > > > <br> > > > On Thu, 11 Sept 2025, 00:45 Ethan A Merritt, <<a href=3D"= mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]<= /a>><br> > > > wrote:<br> > > > > <br> > > > > <br> > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 11:35=E2=80=AFAM Juh=C3=A1sz P= =C3=A9ter<br> > > > > <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > > > > > <br> > > > > > The error message means that the certificate requi= red to serve<br> > > > > > the site over HTTPS is not valid for the domain na= me<br> > > > > > <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferrer = noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.info</a> [1] (nor <a href=3D"https://= urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!gtNM2Sc78gL-Ysg= 1zk84my1iRsUDO5YKxseY7vQ_6VDym0S2hHL0HhcytN_F1Emi3Mk6-vt_iZU8RIDoRuWGjXY$" = rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/_= _http://www.gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!gtNM2Sc78gL-Ysg1zk84my1iRsUDO5YKxs= eY7vQ_6VDym0S2hHL0HhcytN_F1Emi3Mk6-vt_iZU8RIDoRuWGjXY$</a>=C2=A0 [2]). If y= ou look at the<br> > > > > > certificate (offered by Firefox next to the error = message), you<br> > > > > > can see that it was issued by Let's Encrypt to= <br> > > > > > <a href=3D"http://secureprojects.sourceforge.net" = rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">secureprojects.sourceforge.= net</a> [3], and it is valid for a large<br> > > > > > selection of other domain names, presumably all pr= ojects hosted<br> > > > > > by SF. <br> > > > > > <br> > > > > <br> > > > > <br> > > > > Thank you for your insights.<br> > > > > <br> > > > > I think you are addressing a different issue - whether = the<br> > > > > connection protocol is https or http.<br> > > > <br> > > > Yes, this is not about DNS failure. I don't experience D= NS failure,<br> > > > but see precisely the same errors/issues as Peter described.= <br> > > > <br> > > > (Nowadays http should actually redirect to https. Modern bro= wsers<br> > > > also refuse to show http pages.)<br> > > > <br> > > > > It is not surprising that a certificate issued to Sourc= eForge<br> > > > > would not mention <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.info" rel= =3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.info</a> [1] by name b= ecause that name is<br> > > > > not connected to SourceForge except in that (as I under= stand it)<br> > > > > it currently redirects queries to the actual gnuplot si= te<br> > > > > <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net" rel=3D"noref= errer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.sourceforge.net</a> [4].<br> > > > <br> > > > Except that it does matter for https. The hosting site needs= to<br> > > > know that the certificate should also be for <a href=3D"http= ://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.in= fo</a> [1]=C2=A0 and<br> > > > it needs to be explicit whether that is with or without www = (or<br> > > > both).<br> > > > Either a separate certificate is needed for that, or the<br> > > > certificate used needs to be made aware that it needs to cov= er<br> > > > <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer= " target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.info</a> [1]. This really needs to be fixed on = the hosting<br> > > > site, and usually the person in charge of the DNS is also ne= eded in<br> > > > the process of making it work.<br> > > > <br> > > > Unless the administrators of gnuplot on SF have access to<br= > > > > certificate settings (means you would also need to create an= d<br> > > > extend your own certificate), then SF support is really need= ed here<br> > > > to set it up. <br> > > > <br> > > > > The current problem seems to be that the redirection it= self fails<br> > > > > in some cases, or fails to pass through sufficient info= rmation<br> > > > <br> > > > No. It's really a misconfigured site/certificate.<br> > > > <br> > > > > You still see the site, correct?<br> > > > <br> > > > Well ... yes and no, but the more correct answer is probably= NO. By<br> > > > default you don't see the site because the web browser i= s<br> > > > protecting you from "the malicious site" until you= approve an<br> > > > exception and security risk, but that is "an advanced u= se" (it is<br> > > > on purpose made difficult to do that).<br> > > > <br> > > > > For completeness I should mention that the issue of con= nection<br> > > > > via IPv6 as opposed to IPv4 was raised earlier, and mig= ht be<br> > > > > relevant,<br> > > > <br> > > > It is possible that the site works correctly on IPv4 and fai= ls with<br> > > > IPv6. My network right now doesn't support IPv6, so it&#= 39;s hard for<br> > > > me to check. It is unrelated to certificate issues, but it c= ould<br> > > > hypothetically explain why DNS works for others and not for = you if<br> > > > you have IPv6. (By correctly I mean resolving to the correct= <br> > > > website. It still doesn't serve a compliant certificate.= )<br> > > > <br> > > > Mojca<br> > > > <br> > > <br> > > <br> > <br> > <br> > [1] <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.info" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" targ= et=3D"_blank">gnuplot.info</a><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://gnupl= ot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!koofFjCmBlGlxmtOCelbImz1v5loEhcR-xo6w0JLq8fvwUwklPY= jMJSMeOq-e-_jCe9wWKl4ZSgERWeODc4D2Pme$" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" targe= t=3D"_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt5= 4!koofFjCmBlGlxmtOCelbImz1v5loEhcR-xo6w0JLq8fvwUwklPYjMJSMeOq-e-_jCe9wWKl4Z= SgERWeODc4D2Pme$</a><br> > [2] <a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!= !K-Hz7m0Vt54!gtNM2Sc78gL-Ysg1zk84my1iRsUDO5YKxseY7vQ_6VDym0S2hHL0HhcytN_F1E= mi3Mk6-vt_iZU8RIDoRuWGjXY$" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"= >https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!gtNM2S= c78gL-Ysg1zk84my1iRsUDO5YKxseY7vQ_6VDym0S2hHL0HhcytN_F1Emi3Mk6-vt_iZU8RIDoR= uWGjXY$</a> <br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.g= nuplot.info__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!hZAtTCSEA3UZsTRDYd1Rlg-J8_Oq7DJZg-cJMaMoMBMcyZx= 3lwvCVqHE401p-ZikRUWZruc71FaDNhZkYYE3tw4$" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" ta= rget=3D"_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.gnuplot.info__;!!K-H= z7m0Vt54!hZAtTCSEA3UZsTRDYd1Rlg-J8_Oq7DJZg-cJMaMoMBMcyZx3lwvCVqHE401p-ZikRU= WZruc71FaDNhZkYYE3tw4$</a><br> > [3] <a href=3D"http://secureprojects.sourceforge.net" rel=3D"noreferre= r noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">secureprojects.sourceforge.net</a><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://secur= eprojects.sourceforge.net__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!koofFjCmBlGlxmtOCelbImz1v5loEhcR-= xo6w0JLq8fvwUwklPYjMJSMeOq-e-_jCe9wWKl4ZSgERWeODadFrph0$" rel=3D"noreferrer= noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://securepro= jects.sourceforge.net__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!koofFjCmBlGlxmtOCelbImz1v5loEhcR-xo6w= 0JLq8fvwUwklPYjMJSMeOq-e-_jCe9wWKl4ZSgERWeODadFrph0$</a><br> > [4] <a href=3D"http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noref= errer" target=3D"_blank">gnuplot.sourceforge.net</a><br> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://gnupl= ot.sourceforge.net__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!koofFjCmBlGlxmtOCelbImz1v5loEhcR-xo6w0JL= q8fvwUwklPYjMJSMeOq-e-_jCe9wWKl4ZSgERWeODckxZJT_$" rel=3D"noreferrer norefe= rrer" target=3D"_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://gnuplot.sourcefo= rge.net__;!!K-Hz7m0Vt54!koofFjCmBlGlxmtOCelbImz1v5loEhcR-xo6w0JLq8fvwUwklPY= jMJSMeOq-e-_jCe9wWKl4ZSgERWeODckxZJT_$</a><br> > <br> <br> <br> -- <br> Ethan A Merritt<br> Department of Biochemistry<br> University of Washington, Seattle<br> <br> <br> </blockquote></div> --000000000000d3d0d6063ea5b4fe-- --===============8705833563749545909== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline --===============8705833563749545909== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ gnuplot-beta mailing list [email protected] Membership management via: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gnuplot-beta --===============8705833563749545909==--