Re: Fw: forum guidelines/CoC/complaints

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 04:39:06AM -0700, brynn wrote:
> > > We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
> 
> > Please add this to the agenda for the next inkscape board meeting, and
> > we'll identify a person for this role.
> 
> Sorry for the repeat.
> 
> Is this the right place?  http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings

Yes, that's the official place currently.

> And also, do I put it under Action Item?

Don't worry about action items on that page, they're a bit out of date.

(I'm hoping one day maybe moving all this into gitlab issues, but don't
want to make changes until I know more exactly what we should do.)

Bryce

> Thanks again,
> brynn
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Bryce Harrington
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 1:06 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: brynn ; Inkscape-Devel
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
> 
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:41:46AM -0500, [email protected] wrote:
> > We can amend the CoC to refer to somewhere else.
> 
> Please add this to the agenda for the next inkscape board meeting, and
> we'll identify a person for this role.
> 
> Thanks for checking in with KK and verifying the situation.
> 
> > Does the Free Software ecosystem have a complaints resolution
> > project/service yet?
> 
> It would surprise me if such a thing existed.
> 
> > Maybe something like ACAS(uk) but for code of
> > conduct highest appeals sort of thing? Once it's gone past the Inkscape
> > Community, The Inkscape Board and possibly SFC?
> 
> SFC is very swamped right now.  I would not suggest escalating to their
> level unless it the issue was so serious that it was a legal liability.
> 
> Bryce
> 
> > Best Regards, Martin Owens
> > 
> > On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 18:51 -0700, brynn wrote:
> > > Hi again,
> > >         I've had a reply from Krzysztof.  Unfortunately, he says he
> > > is no longer
> > > a good candidate for this position.  So if we still want to use this
> > > process for
> > > settling complaints, I guess we need to find someone else.
> > >
> > >         So this goes kind of out of my hands.  I'm not sure what the
> > > process was
> > > to write the CoC.  But I guess we have to decide if we still want a
> > > single
> > > person with this responsibility.  And if so, who might be interested
> > > to do it.
> > >
> > >         Personally, I think it's important  to have a documented
> > > process for
> > > settling complaints.  Whether it goes to one person, or some kind of
> > > team or
> > > panel, it's important to have it documented.
> > >
> > >         But I'm not sure what the next step should be.
> > >
> > > All best,
> > > brynn
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryce Harrington
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 5:57 PM
> > > To: brynn
> > > Cc: Inkscape-Devel
> > > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fw: [Inkscape-user] forum
> > > guidelines/CoC/complaints
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 01:28:32PM -0700, brynn wrote:
> > > > Just forwarding to the Devel list, for wider audience.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > brynn
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message----- From: brynn
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 10:31 PM
> > > > To: Inkscape User Community
> > > > Subject: [Inkscape-user] forum guidelines/CoC/complaints
> > > >
> > > > Hi Friends,
> > > >        I've previously volunteered to lead an effort to write the
> > > > rules and
> > > > guidelines for the new forum.  Except for the rules about selecting
> > > > staff and
> > > > staff responsibilities, I think the community CoC should
> > > > suffice.  So I was
> > > > just
> > > > reviewing it.
> > > >
> > > >        One thing specifically that I would like in the forum rules
> > > > is a clear
> > > > and concrete method where members can file a complaint and have it
> > > > fairly
> > > > heard
> > > > and settled.
> > > >
> > > >        In the CoC, apparently all that's available is contact
> > > > Krzysztof
> > > > Kosiński: [email protected].  Unless the complaint is about a
> > > > moderator, in
> > > > which case members are supposed to contact the Board.
> > > >
> > > >        First question - Why is it a different process for
> > > > complaints about
> > > > moderators?
> > >
> > > The board has a higher level of authority and power to deal with
> > > structural or staff problems than the CoC contact point does.
> > >
> > > >        2nd - Can I at least say that Krzysztof Kosiński has some
> > > > training and
> > > > experience in conflict resolution?  Or do we have other community
> > > > members with
> > > > such qualifications, who could do this for the forum?
> > >
> > > Could you email him offlist and ask first?  I don't know if he has
> > > training in this area myself.  IIRC he had felt we needed to have a
> > > specific name included in the CoC to make the role concrete, and was
> > > willing to serve as that name.
> > >
> > > It would certainly be useful to know if there are other community
> > > members with training/experience in this area, and if they'd be
> > > interested in serving in a formal role with the project.  With the
> > > new
> > > forum coming online, this could be a convenient point in time to
> > > transition if it makes sense.
> > >
> > > Bryce
> > >
> > >
> > >
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