Re: [Inkscape-devel] Vectors Meeting - Tomorrow - Possible Postponement

If there's no login, there's no problem.
Anywhere I'm entering in username and passwords, and storing stuff on a
server, you better believe it should have encryption.
But whether or not you think we need it, we are an official project who
cares about the security of our users. We depend on mutual trust, and it
looks very bad when browsers reject our invalid credentials (and rightly
so).

Obviously, we want our users to trust us, and having official websites and
chat services fail basic security checks destroys that confidence and trust.

So yea, big deal from my perspective. :)

-C


On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:43 PM brynn <[email protected]> wrote:

> What about websites which have no certificate at all?  You just don't use
> them?
> Those websites will never have warnings about the certificate, because
> they
> don't have one.  It doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't safe sites.
> InkscapeForum.com is one of those, fyi.
>
> Of course we can agree to disagree :-)
>
> All best
> brynn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C R
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 7:42 AM
> To: Brynn
> Cc: Inkscape User Community ; Ryan Gorley ; inkscape-devel
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] [Inkscape-devel] Vectors Meeting - Tomorrow -
> Possible Postponement
>
>
> No, I didn't. But I think it's important for visitors to our site to be
> able to
> trust the chat (especially one you have to sign up for and log into). I
> disagree
> that it's not a big deal.
>
> -C
>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2019, 13:25 brynn, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Wow!  I wonder if that could be some security setting in Chrome?  I'd have
> to
> look it up to be sure, but I think it's an option in Firefox, to not load
> a page
> with an untrusted certificate.  There are just so many untrusted
> certificates,
> on entirely trustworthy sites, I disabled it.  I still get the warning,
> but the
> page isn't completely blocked.
>
> Did you set a temporary exception?  At least in Firefox, I got the option
> to set
> either a temporary or permanent exception, and that fixed the chat.
>
> Or otherwise, perhaps Chrome should be notified.  To my limited
> understanding,
> that doesn't seem reasonable to block the page and not give a choice.
>
> brynn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C R
> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 1:57 PM
> To: Inkscape User Community
> Cc: Brynn ; Ryan Gorley ; inkscape-devel
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] [Inkscape-devel] Vectors Meeting - Tomorrow -
> Possible Postponement
>
>
> It actually broke the chat entirely in Chrome, even clicking past the
> warning,
> it still would not connect. Fyi
>
> -C
>
>
> On Tue, 7 May 2019, 23:32 Ryan Gorley via Inkscape-user,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Understood. Had to make a call with imperfect information. Sorry for the
> inconvenience. I hope we can pick up the forum stuff at the meeting in a
> couple
> days.
>
>
> Ryan
>
> On 5/7/19 4:29 PM, brynn wrote:
> I'll have to be honest.  This is just my opinion.
>
> I don't consider an expired certificate, or whatever problem it was with
> the
> certificate, to be any kind of serious problem.  I trust that the website
> is
> safe, and no serious threat will show up via untrusted certificate warning.
>
> In my opinion, the untrusted certificate warnings are built on maximum
> paranoia.
> They truly do sound dire.  But unless  you are making some monetary
> transaction,
> or sharing files or info that should remain secure, they really can be
> ignored.
> Again, my opinion.
>
> All best,
> brynn
>
> -----Original Message----- From: C R
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 8:32 AM
> To: Manuel Jesús Recena Soto
> Cc: inkscape-devel ; Inkscape User Community
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] [Inkscape-devel] Vectors Meeting - Tomorrow -
> Possible Postponement
>
>
> We are heavily using this chat across all parts of the project at the
> moment. Do
> we need to worry about stability? Thanks for any advice.
>
> -C
>
>
> On Sun, 5 May 2019, 20:04 Manuel Jesús Recena Soto, mailto:
> [email protected]
> wrote:
>
> Hello Ryan,
>
> If you believe this chat service is critical, I suggest you to schedule a
> meeting with infrastructure team in order to find a better solution.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 2:02 AM Ryan Gorley via Inkscape-devel
> mailto:[email protected] wrote:
>
>
> Hello All,
> Due to the certificate error on chat.inkscape.org, some individuals may be
> scared away from participating in our meeting tomorrow. I'm going to keep
> an eye
> on it, but if the error isn't resolved in the next couple hours I'm going
> to
> suggest we postpone our meeting one week. I'll update everyone on the
> status a
> little later.
>
> - Ryan
>
>
>
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