Re: [Inkscape-devel] Yesterday was SMIL and today is Mesh Gradients

On Sat, 2018-07-14 at 03:25 +0200, Jabier Arraiza wrote:
> One question if finally we have a polifill we can include it inside
> the SVG itself optionally?

Still needs some work but handles fills without smoothing quite well:

http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/POLYFILL/MESH/mesh.html


> Enviado desde TypeApp
> En 13 jul. 2018, en 20:52, Tavmjong Bah <[email protected]> escribió:
> > On Fri, 2018-07-13 at 11:03 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
> > > Hi Tavm
> > > 
> > > So should we encourage tutorials that use Mesh Gradients in
> > > Inkscape and publicize them through our website?
> > > 
> > 
> > That would definitely help. The more people use meshes the
> > better... but it won't help if they are ultimately rasterized (used
> > as a PNG rather than an SVG) on the web. The browsers have "use"
> > counters. We probably need to offer users the ability to add a
> > JavaScript "polyfill" to their files that use meshes.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > --Victor Westmann
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 2:43 AM, Tavmjong Bah <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2018-07-12 at 21:05 -0700, Victor Westmann wrote:
> > > > > Hi fellow inkscapers,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was amazed to read that inkscape already has Mesh Gradients
> > > > > (since version 0.92) just like Adobe Illustrator. Illustrator
> > > > > got this exact same feature in the version 8 (released in
> > > > > 1998). 20 years ago.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But it seems that Mesh Gradients will be removed from the SVG
> > > > > 2.0 specification. My question is WHY?
> > > > 
> > > > Nobody else has implemented the SVG version of mesh gradients.
> > > > Adobe is interested but won't proceed until at least one
> > > > browser has implemented it. Firefox was interested a few years
> > > > ago. These things often depend on who is working on SVG at the
> > > > moment.
> > > > 
> > > > To remain in the final publication, there must be at least two
> > > > independent implementations... with one being in a browser. The
> > > > pragmatic solution to getting SVG 2 finalized was to push
> > > > meshes (along with hatches) to SVG 2.1.
> > > > 
> > > > > That made me really sad and wondering: isn't there anything
> > > > > we can do to prevent that from happening? Can we make a
> > > > > petition or talk to Mozilla/Chrome/Opera/Vivaldi browser so
> > > > > they can implement this and this feature, as soon as it gets
> > > > > traction, to be kept in the 2.0 spec of SVG technology?
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure a petition would have any effect at this point.
> > > > SVG 2 itself is in a precarious state. The working group is out
> > > > of charter at the moment and it is not clear the charter will
> > > > be reinstated. We are waiting to hear. A petition wouldn't hurt
> > > > if it had enough signatures. Better would be to get lots of
> > > > content on the web using meshes.
> > > > 
> > > > > Ideas anyone? Is this too unrealistic or we can do something
> > > > > about it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I remember google chrome almost removed SMIL feature from
> > > > > Google Chrome but then the feature got traction and started
> > > > > being used more and more... so they kept it.
> > > > 
> > > > Actually, Google was using SMIL in one if its own products (the
> > > > right hand not knowing what the left hand was doing).
> > > > 
> > > > Tav
> > > > 
> > > > 
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