Re: Inkscape can be extremely frustrating

C R:
I guess I was looking to do some real simple basic stuff and came into a
very robust program with many bells and whistles that made it more
complicated
and harder to learn.  Wished they had a "Lite version" so I could get up
and running
right away.  I am not a professional illustrator, just want to create
fairly simple Line Designs.

Ken

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:42 AM C R <[email protected]> wrote:

> We are working hard to make it better and easier and more intuitive to
> use. You can certainly help our efforts by donation to the project - every
> little bit helps.
>
> In the meantime it's probably easier to learn Inkscape's quirks and just
> work around them for now. I've been using Inkscape as a professional
> designer for over 7 years now, and once you get the hang of it, it's not so
> bad. A lot of bugs have been fixed since I first started using it, and lots
> of new features added. Mostly I'm grateful for devs who have helped and
> continue to help solve problems, and help where I can, and for community
> members who help users and make videos on how to use Inkscape.
>
> Your feedback also helps, so thanks for bringing it to our attention!
>
> -C
>
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 10:27 K B, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Brynn/CR:
>>
>> I agree with you 100%.  I can still remember when I first used it; it was
>> so frustrating!  It did not preform like you think it would.  I also was
>> just trying
>> to use the eraser, but it did not erase part of the image like I thought
>> it would.
>> If I had a lot of extra money, I would probably just start using Adobe's
>> Illustrator.
>> Ken
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:48 AM C R <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The problem is there is no agreed upon solution. But I think Inkscape
>>> should never draw an invisible object anyway.
>>>
>>> Particularly,
>>>
>>> 1. If both fill and stroke are set to none, Inkscape should resort to
>>> the Inkscape default setting of the bezier tool, which is black and white
>>> without dashed lines. Drawing an invisible shape is an error.
>>>
>>> 2. If the user modifies the line width, and the line is set to "none",
>>> Inkscape should set the colour of the line to the Inkscape default : black.
>>>
>>> I think this is a better solution than setting the default behaviour of
>>> Inkscape to a bad workflow - users should not be getting used to having to
>>> change the colour of the line and stroke each and every time they draw
>>> something. It is not intuitive because when you draw in real life you pick
>>> up a pen which is the colour you want and draw with it until you are done,
>>> then choose another colour when you want a different one.
>>>
>>>
>>> -C
>>>
>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 07:59 K B, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Brynn:
>>>> Thank you for the Link about the Bug fix.  Since Inkscape is free,
>>>> maybe the creators
>>>> are not very motivated to fix everything about  it ?
>>>>
>>>> If it were a high price program like Adobe Illustrator, there would
>>>> have enough money to
>>>> pay programmers to fix it and make it better.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:47 PM brynn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Some developers may remember a message I posted to the mailing lists
>>>>> some time
>>>>> ago, maybe a year or 2 ago, asking to have at least some of the tools
>>>>> set for
>>>>> Own Style (by default) rather than Last Used, to prevent this kind of
>>>>> utter
>>>>> confusion among new users.
>>>>>
>>>>> At first, on the mailing list, some developers sort of hijacked it
>>>>> into their
>>>>> own different project.
>>>>>
>>>>> But ultimately (in a bug report) one developer suggested a reasonable
>>>>> solution.
>>>>> See this bug report:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1704777
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone else (developers) could chime in on that solution, perhaps
>>>>> we could
>>>>> get it coded into one of the next new versions, and prevent this type
>>>>> of
>>>>> headache for new users?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much,
>>>>> brynn
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: K B
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:30 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All I want to do to begin with is draw a simple Line Circle. (white
>>>>> background
>>>>> with white inside the circle).
>>>>>
>>>>> But instead it draws a dashed-rectangle with (4) little squares.  Two
>>>>> squares
>>>>> are on the rectangle and the other two are outside.  So, I go into:
>>>>> Edit,
>>>>> Preferences and the Circle it not even listed under Shapes!   Crazy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anybody know what I should do?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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