Re: Inkscape can be extremely frustrating

+1 for "the Book of Inkscape", even if slightly outdated (published in
2009).
Regards,
Ari Constâncio

A seg, 3/09/2018, 18:10, Dwain Alford <[email protected]> escreveu:

> kb,
> no starch press sells the book, "the book of inkscape, the definitive gude
> to the free graphics editor" by dmitry kirsanov. he is a core inkscape
> developer, author and graphic designer, specializing in website and logo
> design.
>
> here's a review. https://wordpress.com/post/wdalford.wordpress.com/5
>
> cheers,
> dwain
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:53 PM, K B <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> C R:
>> I guess I was looking to do some real simple basic stuff and came into a
>> very robust program with many bells and whistles that made it more
>> complicated
>> and harder to learn.  Wished they had a "Lite version" so I could get up
>> and running
>> right away.  I am not a professional illustrator, just want to create
>> fairly simple Line Designs.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:42 AM C R <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> We are working hard to make it better and easier and more intuitive to
>>> use. You can certainly help our efforts by donation to the project - every
>>> little bit helps.
>>>
>>> In the meantime it's probably easier to learn Inkscape's quirks and just
>>> work around them for now. I've been using Inkscape as a professional
>>> designer for over 7 years now, and once you get the hang of it, it's not so
>>> bad. A lot of bugs have been fixed since I first started using it, and lots
>>> of new features added. Mostly I'm grateful for devs who have helped and
>>> continue to help solve problems, and help where I can, and for community
>>> members who help users and make videos on how to use Inkscape.
>>>
>>> Your feedback also helps, so thanks for bringing it to our attention!
>>>
>>> -C
>>>
>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 10:27 K B, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brynn/CR:
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you 100%.  I can still remember when I first used it; it
>>>> was
>>>> so frustrating!  It did not preform like you think it would.  I also
>>>> was just trying
>>>> to use the eraser, but it did not erase part of the image like I
>>>> thought it would.
>>>> If I had a lot of extra money, I would probably just start using
>>>> Adobe's Illustrator.
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:48 AM C R <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The problem is there is no agreed upon solution. But I think Inkscape
>>>>> should never draw an invisible object anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Particularly,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. If both fill and stroke are set to none, Inkscape should resort to
>>>>> the Inkscape default setting of the bezier tool, which is black and white
>>>>> without dashed lines. Drawing an invisible shape is an error.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. If the user modifies the line width, and the line is set to "none",
>>>>> Inkscape should set the colour of the line to the Inkscape default : black.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think this is a better solution than setting the default behaviour
>>>>> of Inkscape to a bad workflow - users should not be getting used to having
>>>>> to change the colour of the line and stroke each and every time they draw
>>>>> something. It is not intuitive because when you draw in real life you pick
>>>>> up a pen which is the colour you want and draw with it until you are done,
>>>>> then choose another colour when you want a different one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -C
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 07:59 K B, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Brynn:
>>>>>> Thank you for the Link about the Bug fix.  Since Inkscape is free,
>>>>>> maybe the creators
>>>>>> are not very motivated to fix everything about  it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it were a high price program like Adobe Illustrator, there would
>>>>>> have enough money to
>>>>>> pay programmers to fix it and make it better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:47 PM brynn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some developers may remember a message I posted to the mailing lists
>>>>>>> some time
>>>>>>> ago, maybe a year or 2 ago, asking to have at least some of the
>>>>>>> tools set for
>>>>>>> Own Style (by default) rather than Last Used, to prevent this kind
>>>>>>> of utter
>>>>>>> confusion among new users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At first, on the mailing list, some developers sort of hijacked it
>>>>>>> into their
>>>>>>> own different project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But ultimately (in a bug report) one developer suggested a
>>>>>>> reasonable solution.
>>>>>>> See this bug report:
>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1704777
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If anyone else (developers) could chime in on that solution, perhaps
>>>>>>> we could
>>>>>>> get it coded into one of the next new versions, and prevent this
>>>>>>> type of
>>>>>>> headache for new users?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you very much,
>>>>>>> brynn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: K B
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:30 PM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All I want to do to begin with is draw a simple Line Circle. (white
>>>>>>> background
>>>>>>> with white inside the circle).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But instead it draws a dashed-rectangle with (4) little squares.
>>>>>>> Two squares
>>>>>>> are on the rectangle and the other two are outside.  So, I go into:
>>>>>>> Edit,
>>>>>>> Preferences and the Circle it not even listed under Shapes!   Crazy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anybody know what I should do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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