Re: Inkscape can be extremely frustrating

When we re-do the fill and stroke indicators, I'm going to add in a stroke
and fill history suggestion, I think defaulting to the last used visible
style in that history is what will be expected in most cases, and
potentially the most useful thing for Inkscape to do. Starting a new file,
the default style for the tool should be used, because there is no history
yet. Same with opening a saved file. Add to this a spin button with pop up
of stroke/fill history, it should be very easy for folks to get back to the
stroke and fill they want.

More on this after the Hackfest.

-C

On Mon, 10 Sep 2018, 11:56 Mark Crutch, <[email protected]> wrote:

> I often push the boundaries of Inkscape and SVG, in order to hide Easter
> eggs in my comics, or when researching my Full Circle Magazine tutorials.
> But even I can't think of a time when I've ever intentionally *drawn* an
> invisible object.
>
> There are plenty of times when I've drawn an object and then intentionally
> made it invisible (e.g. for text on a path or, most recently, when creating
> a SMIL animation path for my next tutorial), but I always draw them as
> visible objects first.
>
> There are too many ways that an object could be "invisible" to catch all
> cases, but a simple rule of thumb might be that if both the fill and stroke
> are set to "none", have an alpha value of zero, or the object's opacity is
> zero, that the tool's default style is used. Combined with the earlier
> proposal about reverting to the tool's own style on start-up, this would
> lead to the following behaviour:
>
> 1) On starting Inkscape, creating a new image, or loading an existing one,
> all tools are set to "tool's own style".
> 2) While working on a document, "last used style" is used (unless the
> prefs are set to always use "tool's own style").
> 3) When a drawing tool is selected and the drawn object would be invisible
> (based on the heuristics above, and perhaps some others), the "last used
> style" is modified to match the "tool's own style".
>
> It still wouldn't catch all cases - consider an alpha that's set close to,
> but not quite zero - but I think an approach like this would help new users
> whilst not particularly getting in the way of experienced users.
>
>
> Mark
>
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