Re: Inkscape Forum

Yes CR and Maren. You guys are 150% right. I would say diplomacy first,
second, and third.
Fingers crossed for the best possible outcome for all of us. Always! ;-)

--Victor Westmann


On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:58 AM C R <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's my understanding that we always aim for the lightest possible touch,
> especially with people who have been a part of and supported Inkscape over
> the years.
>
> The project setting up another forum under direct control of the project
> should not be seen as competition for the old Inkscape forum, but a
> necessary step.
>
> This should in no way reduce our sincere gratitude to the hosts of
> Inkscape forum. And we do hope that they will continue to be a part of
> Inkscape and the new forum if indeed they have time to continue
> contributing in the future when it's more convenient for them to do so.
>
> With this in mind, I think 3 months is plenty of notice. I believe any
> contributor who steps away for that long would not be surprised that the
> project continues on in their absence, which of course we must do to
> support our users and community.
>
> So with absolutely no disrespect to the Inkscape forum hosts, I believe we
> should continue with our plans within the active community.
>
> I will bring it up at the next board meeting if it's determined we need a
> majority vote on it. In the meantime I'll post the concern to the board
> mailing list.
>
> Thanks to Brynn for keeping up with it, and keeping us all in the loop
> with complete transparency and a compassion and patience that is truly
> motivating and inspiring. :)
>
> My 2p
> -C
>
>
>
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, 10:51 brynn <[email protected] wrote:
>
>> Just to be clear, there is no adversarial relationship between
>> InkscapeForum and
>> the rest of the community.  I'm sorry if I gave that impression.  I think
>> the
>> owner was once involved with the community.  He has continued to host the
>> site
>> for all these years, without complaint.  Just also without input.
>>
>> At this point, I think we are still hoping and waiting.  It's just that
>> I'm
>> wondering how long we should wait.  Perhaps ironically, I was the one who
>> advocated for waiting longer (few months) rather than shorter (few
>> weeks).  But
>> it has been a few months.
>>
>> I guess I should message the small team who has been working on this, and
>> find
>> out if it's time to take our next steps (after deciding what those steps
>> will
>> be).  Your proposed solution is indeed one of those options.
>>
>> All best,
>> brynn
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Victor Westmann
>> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2018 1:46 PM
>> To: inkscape-user
>> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape Forum
>>
>>
>> We can try to talk to the InkscapeForum in the most peaceful and
>> diplomatic way.
>> If he/she does not collaborate with us we can start a new forum and
>> mention in
>> our site that the other one is NOT OFFICIAL forum. It can be used with no
>> further problems but it is not endorsed by the project.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> --Victor Westmann
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 12:30 PM Victor Westmann <
>> [email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Oh my! I see... so the forum we have today was created by someone outside
>> of the
>> project team and became very popular. I see. Well... in this case never
>> mind. I
>> don't want to disturb everyone with this then... just thought that
>> someone
>> forgot to put the link to the forum since there is so much activity in
>> there.
>>
>> Let's pray for a peaceful and civilized solution soon then.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 11:21 AM brynn <[email protected] wrote:
>> Indeed, InkscapeForum.com is the de facto official forum.  It was removed
>> from
>> the links on the Community page (a couple or 3 years ago) because it came
>> to
>> light that except for spam control, there is no other significant
>> management of
>> the forum (just loyal and dedicated members, helping Inkscape users, day
>> in and
>> day out).  In my  opinion, it screams to be updated.  We have no access
>> to its
>> server.
>>
>> The single owner/admin has twice said he will provide the forum to become
>> community managed.  And now that the Inkscape project has it's own
>> server, a new
>> forum has been installed, and is ready and waiting for him to deposit the
>> databases and other files.  I guess we've been waiting around 4 or 5
>> months?
>>
>> I'm not sure what we're going to do, but I guess it's probably time to
>> address
>> it, and decide what "Plan B" is going to be.  Just my opinion though.
>>
>> Certainly if it's databases are used to start the new official forum, it
>> will be
>> well-linked from the website!
>>
>> All best,
>> brynn
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Victor Westmann
>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2018 10:58 AM
>> To: inkscape-user
>> Subject: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape Forum
>>
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I am a long time inkscape user but I just recently found the forum. Maybe
>> it is
>> just me but isn't it possible for us to include the forum
>> (www.inkscapeforum.com) in one of the main menus of the Inkscape
>> website? (maybe
>> under the option "community" of under the option "learn"?)
>>
>> There such a rich wealth of knowledge and so many active discussions that
>> I feel
>> like I have rediscovered this application today altogether!
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --Victor Westmann
>>
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