Re: new forum, what happened? make a plan?

Oh yes, I realize the new forum is still being worked on.  I didn't mean to 
imply it wasn't.  I just had the impression it had slowed down, and there was no 
longer a priority to get it open.

I was told the plan was to let the old forum keep running as long as it will, 
which to me, is the same limbo we've been in, for so long now.  (And in my 
opinion, not a good idea, for what I thought would be obvious reasons.)

I'm definitely commited, but since I don't have the development skills, I don't 
understand what work still needs to be done.  So I think it would be helpful to 
make a plan -- at least to have an outline of the next steps, so that everyone 
is on the same page.

If the folks working on the development could say what still needs to be done, I 
could write up tasks in a gitlab Issue (I'm not sure if there already is an 
issue or not, but I'll look).

And there's another potential problem that needs to be addressed as well 
(probably a few actually).  It seems most of the membership of InkscapeForum is 
not interested in the new forum.  When I posted the message inviting them to 
test it, there was little to no response.  I didn't specifically address the 
fact that the old forum would be closed, and they didn't seem to pick up on the 
many hints.  It sounds like they are expecting the old forum to stay open.  We 
haven't broached that subject of closing it yet, publicly (except for this 
message - I'm not sure if any forum members subscribe to this list).

Plus, they somehow think I instigated the new forum, which renewed the same wild 
assumptions they made when I opened Inkscape Community (that I wanted to take 
over, or divide the forum, or steal members, or whatever nonsense they 
imagined).

So when the time comes to open the new forum and close the old one, that word 
will need to come probably from the board.  In any case, I should probably no 
longer be "the messenger" regarding the new forum.

If you need forum management, maybe we need to work up the forum rules or 
guidelines (or whatever we call them)?  And then we could go about setting up 
admins and moderators.  Is that the kind of management you mean?

I'm not sure how we could use the forum any further, at this point.  It seems to 
have been tested in every way I can think of, except for heavy traffic.  I don't 
think it should be opened until we're ready to close the old one, for several 
reasons.

But if you could share your list of paper cuts which still need fixing, I could 
help in prioritizing them.  (Maren might help too??)

If we could find a way for the board to explain that the old forum is going to 
be closed, the members might be more willing to test the new forum?  Maybe 
they'd be more willing to be on the new staff too??  Here's the forum thread 
where I invited members to test the new forum: 
http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=34311  So you can see how 
they're resistant.  I'm not sure how the best way to word it would be, but we 
could discuss it in real time, at some point, probably better than in email.

All best,
brynn



-----Original Message----- 
From: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 6:15 PM
To: Inkscape User Community
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] new forum, what happened? make a plan?

Hi Brynn,

Sorry if it seems like the website forum is in limbo, it's not. It's
very functional I think on the core and has a great number of the
functionalities asked for.

The questions now are so fold:

1. Do we have someone like yourself who is willing and able to doing
the management work to make the new forum work? We need people who are
committed being in the key seats to really get things moving.

2. The inkscape-web team is at your disposal. (or at the disposal of
the management of the forum). It will from time to time appear like I
get distracted easily like a dog chasing squirrels. And that appearance
is entirely true. Greater use of the forum, and direction by someone in
charge would greatly help keeping things focused and prioritising which
of the many small paper-cuts is the most important.

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Fri, 2019-01-25 at 23:41 +0000, C R wrote:
> Correct if wrong, but I got the impression that it's still being
> worked on.
> I'm liaising with Doctormo, and Jabier to try and integrate the
> visual stylings of the new forum with our current website.
> If it's true that we're going back into a state of limbo do tell me
> so I don't do extra work for nothing! :)



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