Re: libpng version 2.0, anyone?

John Bowler <[email protected]> Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:37:00 -0700
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On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 2:29=E2=80=AFPM Chris Lilley <[email protected]> wrote [
*emphasis* added]:

>
> John, please do not spread misinformation.
>
> W3C has a policy to always make specs freely available at no cost - to
> everyone, not just to the people involved in making them.
> *That is not "some version" it is the official and definitive version.*
>

Really?  I thought PNG was an ISO/IEC standard, i.e. this standard:

https://www.iso.org/standard/29581.html

Not that I've ever seen that standard as it costs more than my yearly pay.
I completely agree with
your aims. However perhaps you can explain why the W3C is now the
authoritative organisation.
The position of ISO/IEC seems somewhat counter productive if W3C is the
authority; they should
at least mention on that web page that you are in charge, even if they
don't say that you don't charge.

The OP did, in fact, ask about sRGB; a core part of the web because in
practice all images embedded
in web pages are constrained to be sRGB and the colours in CSS are sRGB, so
"W3C has a policy to
always make specs freely available *at not cost*".  Nevertheless I find
after searching for the copy of the
sRGB spec on the W3C web site (exactly what the OP asked for):

https://www.w3.org/Graphics/Color/sRGB.html

I'm not blaming you, I suspect we do, in fact, speak pretty much exactly
the same language.  I'm not
blaming the W3C.  The problem is somewhat intractable.  I'm criticising.
Personally I much prefer
criticism to put downs; I've found people who criticise what I say are most
often correct, at least on
this list.

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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 2:29=E2=80=AF=
PM Chris Lilley &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wr=
ote [<b>emphasis</b> added]:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><br>
John, please do not spread misinformation.<br>
<br>
W3C has a policy to always make specs freely available at no cost - to <br>
everyone, not just to the people involved in making them. <b>That is not <b=
r>
&quot;some version&quot; it is the official and definitive version.</b><br>=
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Really?=C2=A0 I thought PNG was an ISO/IEC=
 standard, i.e. this standard:</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://=
www.iso.org/standard/29581.html">https://www.iso.org/standard/29581.html</a=
></div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>Not that I&#39;ve ever seen that standard as i=
t costs more than my yearly pay.=C2=A0 I completely agree with</div><div>yo=
ur aims. However perhaps you can explain why the W3C is now the authoritati=
ve organisation.</div><div>The position of ISO/IEC seems somewhat counter p=
roductive if W3C is the authority; they should</div><div>at least mention o=
n that web page that you are in charge, even if they don&#39;t say that you=
 don&#39;t charge.</div><div><br></div><div>The OP did, in fact, ask about =
sRGB; a core part of the web because in practice all images embedded</div><=
div>in web pages are constrained to be sRGB and the colours in CSS are sRGB=
, so &quot;W3C has a policy to</div><div>always make specs freely available=
 <i>at not cost</i>&quot;.=C2=A0 Nevertheless I find after searching for th=
e copy of the</div><div>sRGB spec on the W3C web site (exactly what the OP =
asked for):</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.w3.org/Graphics=
/Color/sRGB.html">https://www.w3.org/Graphics/Color/sRGB.html</a><br></div>=
<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m not blaming you, I suspect we do, in fact, spea=
k pretty much exactly the same language.=C2=A0 I&#39;m not</div><div>blamin=
g the W3C.=C2=A0 The problem is somewhat intractable.=C2=A0 I&#39;m critici=
sing.=C2=A0 Personally I much prefer</div><div>criticism to put downs; I&#3=
9;ve found people who criticise what I say are most often correct, at least=
 on</div><div>this list.</div></div></div>

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