Re: SANE_FRAME_IR

Ralph Little <[email protected]> Thu, 23 Jul 2026 11:27:43 -0700
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Hi,
So sounds like we have quite a bit of work to do. I did a quick read 
through the threads and I will meditate on it a bit and try to summarise 
the main points for further discussion.
An update to the SANE standard is massively overdue in my opinion by I 
understand the various positions.

BTW, as a side note, I am now semi-retired!! So in theory I have a lot 
more time to give to the SANE project, not that I don't have other 
things to do though. :)
So perhaps we have an opportunity to make some big changes now.

Cheers,
Ralph

On 2026-07-22 19:17, m. allan noah wrote:
> An interesting thread starts here: 
> https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/sane-devel/2007-May/019285.html
> and later we talked about how to enable such things without a 
> soversion bump: 
> https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/sane-devel/2008-February/021145.html
>
> allan
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 10:09 PM m. allan noah <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     We actually had a longer discussion in 2007, but I do not see that
>     we have mailing list archives from that point available online.
>
>     allan
>
>     On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 8:57 PM Ralph Little <[email protected]>
>     wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         On 2026-07-22 17:37, m. allan noah wrote:
>         > We already have a SANE_FRAME_JPEG and SANE_FRAME_IR in
>         sane.h, but
>         > they are commented out because we could not agree on bumping
>         the
>         > library version number. I bet you could find some ancient, and
>         > sometimes heated discussions in the archives of this
>         mailing list.
>         > ..
>         > allan
>
>
>         Indeed, it seems like there was quite a bit of a heated
>         discussion here:
>         http://www.sane-project.org/old-archive/1999-08/
>         I will read through the messages and see what I can glean from it.
>
>         Cheers,
>         Ralph
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     "well, I stand up next to a mountain- and I chop it down with the
>     edge of my hand"
>
>
>
> -- 
> "well, I stand up next to a mountain- and I chop it down with the edge 
> of my hand"

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    Hi,<br>
    So sounds like we have quite a bit of work to do. I did a quick read
    through the threads and I will meditate on it a bit and try to
    summarise the main points for further discussion.<br>
    An update to the SANE standard is massively overdue in my opinion by
    I understand the various positions.<br>
    <br>
    BTW, as a side note, I am now semi-retired!! So in theory I have a
    lot more time to give to the SANE project, not that I don't have
    other things to do though. :)<br>
    So perhaps we have an opportunity to make some big changes now.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    Ralph<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2026-07-22 19:17, m. allan noah
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        <div>An interesting thread starts here: <a
href="https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/sane-devel/2007-May/019285.html"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/sane-devel/2007-May/019285.html</a></div>
        <div>and later we talked about how to enable such things without
          a soversion bump: <a
href="https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/sane-devel/2008-February/021145.html"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/sane-devel/2008-February/021145.html</a></div>
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        <div>allan</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at
          10:09 PM m. allan noah &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
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            <div>We actually had a longer discussion in 2007, but I do
              not see that we have mailing list archives from that point
              available online.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>allan</div>
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          <br>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at
              8:57 PM Ralph Little &lt;<a
                href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">[email protected]</a>&gt;
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
              <br>
              On 2026-07-22 17:37, m. allan noah wrote:<br>
              &gt; We already have a SANE_FRAME_JPEG and SANE_FRAME_IR
              in sane.h, but <br>
              &gt; they are commented out because we could not agree on
              bumping the <br>
              &gt; library version number. I bet you could find some
              ancient, and <br>
              &gt; sometimes heated discussions in the archives of this
              mailing list.<br>
              &gt; ..<br>
              &gt; allan<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              Indeed, it seems like there was quite a bit of a heated
              discussion here: <br>
              <a href="http://www.sane-project.org/old-archive/1999-08/"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.sane-project.org/old-archive/1999-08/</a><br>
              I will read through the messages and see what I can glean
              from it.<br>
              <br>
              Cheers,<br>
              Ralph<br>
              <br>
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      <span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br>
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