Re: text-flow gets changed by 1.5.8
Silvain Dupertuis <[email protected]> Tue, 1 Mar 2022 11:33:27 +0100
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For large files or projects, I suppose you could put them in any kind of cloud and give access by a link instead of uploading the whole thing to the mantis tracker... Silvain Le 01.03.22 à 10:44, Martin Zaske LINGO a écrit : > Craig had asked for samples. So I submitted an issue for this on the > mantis tracker and uploaded my sample .sla file. The ID is 0016763. > > There is a limit of 2 MB for sample-uploads, which does not feel quite > enough when discussing actual publications. I had tried uploading my > entire document from "collect for output". Then I removed all photos and > captions, but now the bad effect is much less visible on the pages as we > had text mixed with photos. > > > > I would love to get help now on how to proceed, as we are still in the > process of a re-design for our magazine. I need something stable, so > that I can introduce our team to the new templates and start training. > > > - Shall I ignore version 1.5.8 until the cause is identified (and fixed > on my system or in Scribus)? > > - Any specific known reason for not using version 1.5.7 (on Windows and > Linux machines) during 2022? > > > Thank you, > > Martin > > > > > On 18.02.2022 12:38, Craig Bradney wrote: >> This can be affected by the libraries included in the OS or the build, especially harfbuzz etc. It'd be great to get whatever sample files we can to review. >> >> Thanks >> Craig >> >> On 18/02/2022, 12:25, "Andreas Mair"<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello! >> >> I think that's what happened here, too. I've started working on a "new" >> document and noticed that some texts don't fit into the defined text boxes. >> By "new" I mean that I'll always start with the latest issue of that >> magazine and change the texts etc. >> >> For the latest issue I used 1.5.7, now I'm using 1.5.8. After reading your >> posting I will try to go back to 1.5.7 and see if everything is fine again, >> just to exclude used libs (used font didn't change). >> If it's simply a matter of running 1.5.7 or 1.5.8 I'll try to narrow the >> problem down. >> >> Best regards, >> Andreas >> >> >> >> Am Do., 17. Feb. 2022 um 18:38 Uhr schrieb Martin Zaske LINGO < >> [email protected]>: >> >> > Hi list >> > >> > I was getting help recently, while "hacking" a quick calendar with >> > tab-stops. I opened it a few days later, once more, and made a second >> > version. My document was made with version 1.5.7. >> > >> > This was after I had just installed version 1.5.8 (on Windows 10 pro, >> > 64bit). The layout had changed some, text inside a text-frame had >> > shifted. Since I had done some hacking (as explained in my last thread) >> > I blamed myself and quickly re-edited to make things align again. >> > >> > >> > >> > Today it happened again, but in a "good document", i.e. everything >> > vanilla, no hacking: We are redesigning our magazine, moving from A3 >> > page size to A4 and making spin-off versions for smart-phone screen >> > proportions. >> > >> > I had started a sample template a few weeks ago. Now I have installed >> > version 1.5.8 and again, I notice that text in my sample article has >> > been shifted. >> > >> > >> > I am using nothing fancy, two text-frames (as two columns) next to each >> > other on each page, with links between the frames. There are photos on >> > another layer above the texts and I am using the "text flows around >> > contour line" option. I still have both versions on my machine and I >> > made two identical copies and open them at the same time: Look >> > different. Not a font issue, not a Windows issue as far as I can tell. >> > >> > After more searching and opening the two identical copies of my file >> > with swapped Scribus versions I have confirmed the problem. Now after >> > some searching I can say, it is caused by different "interpretation" of >> > my main text style by the versions. >> > >> > I am using justified text with Fira Sans, Align to Baseline Grid, >> > Optical Margins both sides, Advanced Settings: Min Space 80%, Glyph >> > extension Min 95%, Max 105% (do not yell at me, early days) and nothing >> > fancy in the Character Style tab of my style definition. The text is in >> > an African language and (automatic) hyphenation is not activated. >> > >> > So when I open my document in different versions, somehow my text via >> > style (alignment) gets rendered a little different than before. This is >> > affecting only certain lines, maybe one line every ten lines and I >> > cannot say it is "more dense" in 1.5.8, some paratexts get a little >> > longer. But the changes are still too much to allow a good work-flow. >> > And in our office we use Windows and Linux machines and all versions are >> > 1.5.x but at different stages always. >> > >> > >> > >> > Now before I spend a lot of time with research: Have other users noticed >> > that same behaviour?: Text-layout or text-flow changes between versions >> > 1.5.7 and 1.5.8 in Windows? >> > >> > Is this "allowed" behaviour in the 1.5 series? I am aware this is free >> > software and my mail is not a complaint. I was just under the >> > impressions (false?) that within one series like 1.5.x files or Scribus >> > would remain compatible. >> > >> > >> > With any normal small project, I would just quickly fix it and be done. >> > But since we are preparing an entire re-design, I am now nervous about >> > this as you can imagine. >> > >> > >> > >> > Normally I cannot easily share documents because of data protection and >> > copyrights etc. But since I have only done the very first draft-steps >> > and I only have used free photos from Pixabay, I could upload somewhere >> > if anybody would be interested to test. >> > >> > >> > Thank you for your help and greetings, >> > >> > Martin >> > >> > >> > -- >> > courriel par Martin Zaske, membre de : >> > >> > LINGO-Bénin >> > B.P. 48 >> > Bassila >> > Rep. du Bénin >> > >> > Tel. 00229 / 97.44.62.95 >> > Tel. 00229 / 62.58.04.48 >> > >> > Organisation Non Gouvernementale >> > Decret No. 2001-234 du 12 juillet 2001 >> > No. d'enregistrement 6/033/P-SG STCCD-DCDI-ONG >> > du 05 septembre 2012 >> > >> > Numéro IFU: 6201702245702 >> > >> >www.lingo-benin.org >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Scribus Mailing List:[email protected] >> > Edit your options or unsubscribe: >> >http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus >> > See also: >> >http://wiki.scribus.net >> >http://forums.scribus.net >> > >> -------------- n�chster Teil -------------- >> Ein Dateianhang mit HTML-Daten wurde abgetrennt... >> URL:<http://lists.scribus.net/pipermail/scribus/attachments/20220218/07788d6d/attachment.htm> >> ___ >> Scribus Mailing List:[email protected] >> Edit your options or unsubscribe: >> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus >> See also: >> http://wiki.scribus.net >> http://forums.scribus.net >> >> >> >> ___ >> Scribus Mailing List:[email protected] >> Edit your options or unsubscribe: >> http://lists.scribus.net/mailman/listinfo/scribus >> See also: >> http://wiki.scribus.net >> http://forums.scribus.net > -- Silvain Dupertuis Route de Lausanne 335 1293 Bellevue (Switzerland) tél. +41-(0)22-774.20.67 portable +41-(0)79-604.87.52 web: silvain-dupertuis.org <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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