Re: SCons

JP Dinger wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 02:03:48AM -0600, Nicholas Steinberg wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 02:34:10 -0500, Matthew A. Nicholson
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I was wondering if you all ever considered SCons (www.scons.org) as
>>>a build system. I am willing to conver y-windows over.
>>
>>If Y becomes popular, this could be a good oportunity to get a Make
>>alternative's foot in the door. Another idea might be Apache's Ant (
>>http://ant.apache.org/ ).
> 
> 
> It could be. But consider that it also could be very negative on Y. The
> point is that make is almost ubiquitous and scons and ant are not. And
> even if the ``local make'' doesn't support all features the build system
> uses (those needs can generally be reduced so that various makes, such as
> sysv's make, pmake and gmake, can all use the same makefiles), gmake is
> by now portable enough to be installable if a local make doesn't do.
> 
> You want Y to be easily made everywhere, not confined to whatever
> environment the developers like to install. So you want to _reduce_
> dependencies to the minimum possible without impeding development. If
> gmake fills the need, there is no reason to put something else in, even
> if that is theoretically better.
> 
> 
> 
>>I guess this could be seen as a fight
>>between Python (SCons) and Java (Ant). We should go with whatever is
>>most practical (even Make, if necessary), but, in the fight between
>>Python and Java, ignoring all other factors, a) it's possible more
>>Linux users have Python installed than Java, and b) Python is OSS/FS,
>>and Java isn't.
> 
> 
> And Y is built with neither java nor python. Shall we stick to make?
> 
> This is not to put anyone off toying with whatever toys they like
> to play with. This is merely to keep this toy from depending on
> other toys that may or may not be installed everywhere. There
> is practically no gcc installation without a gmake, whereas gcc
> bears no relation to java or python. Even if you happen to run
> $distro_that_installs_python_by_default. Same goes for java.
> 
> 

Every major distro has python by default.  Python is the only extra dependancy 
scons would require.

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Matthew A. Nicholson
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