Re: Suggestion: View-pane

What about XUL or XForms or some other XML or something else meant for that kind 
of thing.  Unless you mean just something to display text based data (which is 
what i think you meant...)  (TP)

James Harr wrote:
> I like the idea, but I must bring up a couple points at least to discuss.
> 
> Generally every different *ML has a different idea on how you are suppose to 
> position and size text/image objects. Trying to generalize that into 
> something that all widgets can use could be very painfull and not worth the 
> effort. When you look at HTML at its bare bones it's really easy, a string of 
> text with some formatting options. However when you get into things like 
> tables, divs, and _layers_, etc. Drawing html can get rather complex. Add in 
> things like javascript and you really have to do several things: convert HTML 
> to WhateverML to display it and either make a way to add/remove/modify things 
> on the display pane or to be forced to re-send the WhateverML and redraw the 
> whole thing.
> 
> Generalizing things is a good idea, but I think an HTML widget would be best 
> left to the end application to draw through a canvas widget. Like "draw 
> dropdown box here, draw a rectangle with this color in it, fill put this 
> image here..."
> 
> Having a widget that draws things like HTML also brings complications in the 
> form of how well the widget draws it, if the converter is built into the 
> server or the Y++ libraries, then everyone will be limited by that one 
> widget. Now IIRC, gecko is windowing system independent (or could be adapted 
> easily), and is being refined the most at the moment.
> 
> I might be misunderstanding your idea too. I think having a nice general text 
> format drawer for canvas widgets would be nice though. You could feed it a 
> stream of text with things like font face, size, weight, and and some 
> dimensions that limit where it can draw the text. That would be a very nice 
> utility taking a lot of the pain out of drawing text on canvas widgets. Then 
> it'd be up to the application to determine where and how it is drawn.
> 
> I do like your idea, I just have to be the devil's advocate :)
> 
> Regards,
> James
> 
> On Wednesday 27 October 2004 7:50 pm, Alza wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am not sure if it is possible or practical but I think a view pane
>>that can display data from any source ie text or HTML format would make
>>a good idea for a widget.
>>
>>The source file, whether it is a text file or web page, is read into a
>>stream. If there is any formatting in the source ie bold, tab etc. It is
>>added to the stream as a command that is understood by the widget
>>
>>The view pane reads the stream and displays it whether it is a
>>formatting command or text character.
>>
>>I think the benefit of this would be that rather than half a dozen
>>different widgets that displays different kind of data, there is only
>>one which is easy to maintain.
>>
>>If anybody has any other ideas about expanding this or reasons why this
>>would not be practice, I would be grateful for the posts.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Alza.
> 
> 


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