Re: Quick question... Is this project dead?!

I wouldn't call that a criticism of the project as much as just a
statement of fact.  Designing and coding something like Y-windows and
doing it right is high-end stuff, it's not really territory for
someone who isn't already intimately familiar with these kinds of
things.

On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:13:00 -0400, Jacob O'Reilly <[email protected]> wrote:
> As much as it pains me to reply to this, and as much as none of us has much
> right to demand anything... I must say that I have one simple criticism of
> the project:  The level of experience and maturity needed to contribute is
> fairly high.
> 
> Of course, it's not Andrew Suffield's job to hand-hold people through their
> own learning curve, but perhaps someone out there can volunteer for that
> position, so that the interested (but green) parties can help each other.
> 
> On y-windows.org you can see the road map mentioning features and planned
> releases, perhaps someone can share how we are doing on achieving version
> 0.3 features?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Suffield" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [Y-devel] Quick question... Is this project dead?!
> 
> On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 09:02:49PM +0200, Kimmo Sundqvist wrote:
> > On Sunday 02 January 2005 00:24, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> > > Just refer to the last "Is this project dead??" thread ;-)
> >
> > > http://www.y-windows.org/pipermail/y-devel/2004-September/001736.html
> >
> > I hope the developers would at least say something about their progress.
> > Once
> > a month, maybe?
> 
> There hasn't been any in the past month because we've all been doing
> other things. I don't see why you expect anything different. Nor is
> your demand for progress reports appropriate or even good manners; you
> are not middle-management for any of us.
> 
> > It is much possible that they know all the best ideas and want no input or
> > discussion, and it is also possible that they want to surprise us.
> > Finally,
> > it is possible that once they have something ready, swarms of beta-testers
> > will emerge out of nowhere to help them after a single announcement.
> 
> All of that stuff is grossly premature.
> 
> > Where were the arch access instructions again?
> 
> Read the manual.
> 
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