Re: Building a new home for GPE

At Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:30:40 +0200,
Nils Faerber wrote:
> What makes you think someone wants to "hijack" anything?
> 
> First of all, this is merely impossible since we are talking about an
> open source project. It is and will ever be an open source project.
> 
> Hijacking means to take something away, or even worse, to blackmail
> someone with taking something away.
> 
> So, is anyone intending to take something away from anyone? I think not.
> 
> Is anyone asking someone for something in order to give the taken away
> good back? No.
> 
> So please do not use the term "hijack" since it does not at all reflect
> the truth.

In the very least, the of this effort is to transfer control of the
GPE infrastructure from you to George.  The question which Marcus, in
my opinion, very well poses: is how is this justified?

> > Excuse me for my ignorance, I merely wish to understand, not offend.
> 
> Me too, I would like to understand the problems that people see but
> until now I can only find bad suspicions about LTG paired with some
> paranoia and quite an amount of ignorance.
> 
> Real arguments by now have been:
> 
> - What are the benefits? I think we answered that lengthy enough.

Actually, this is still unclear to me what the actual benefits are.
You have spoken of "freedom" but I have not yet read where you
substantiate what this means.  Certainly if you control the resources,
you have more freedom to use them as you see fit, however, I don't see
how this *necessarily* translates to more freedom for the community.

What I would like to see, and what I think Marcus has also called for,
is a list consisting of: we want to do this but the current situation
with handhelds.org does not allow us to do this because of this and
that.  Until I see such a list, I too remain skeptical.

> At the moment there are only a few active GPE developers anyway.
> If this kind of discussion continues I am tempted to simply "copy"
> existing GPE (remember it is GPL/LGPL) and continue from there on. Then
> everyone can see and follow what is happening. There will be no hiding,
> no behind the scenes discussions or decisions. Everything is and stays open.

Forks can be good and healthy.  The egcs fork had long term
advantages.  To gain developer and community support, you need to
argue why this is necessary.  If so, they may follow you.  The emotive
language which both you and Florian have used has not convinced me.

Thanks,
Neal