Re: Re: Building a new home for GPE

Hi Andrey,

It is not a question of how much or how little contribution was made.  It is 
an issue of conduct.  Grievers are not welcome.   Lets look at Koen's: last 
e-mail to the GPE mailing list:

Three paragraphs designed to make people upset and angry. None of them are 
true.  

Will anybody be shocked, that in a few days after everything is documented 
that Koen gets banned ?

It may appear dead from the outside.  Many people have just gotten quiet, but  
are doing things. It is not much fun getting attacked every time they post 
something.
 
--George



On Thursday 12 October 2006 08:37 pm, Andrey Bondarenko wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Koen did much to Familiar as I remember and seems like you all want
> still to have great power instead concentraion on priority tasks
> andinvolving new people. For anyone who is looking on hh.org from
> outside it seems to be half dead project.
>
> 2006/10/13, George France <[email protected]>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry to continue with the unpleasantness, but a few folks wanted
> > clarification on the 2nd issue.  The 2nd paragraph should read:
> >
> > A while later I had to ban Koen from handhelds.org site for making
> > repeated misrepresentations and attacking others, after many warnings. 
> > The GPE and OE folks got offended  that he was banned.  About one week
> > before banning Koen from the handhelds.org site, I did e-mail most of of
> > the parties involved to give them the opportunity to take care of these
> > issues.  Many of the recipients, said that they did not get their
> > e-mails.  I unbanned Koen at that time, so they could take care of the
> > issue.  Koen did apologize for the incident that caused the banning.  If
> > he behaves Koen is welcome at handhelds.org. If he can not, then.....  
> > It is up to him.  Koen was the 2nd person to be banned from handhelds.org
> > in 7 years.
> >
> > --George
> >
> > On Thursday 12 October 2006 01:38 pm, George France wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Thursday 12 October 2006 11:42 am, Andrey Bondarenko wrote:
> > > > What the hell is going on at once?
> > >
> > > Rough over view:
> > >
> > > A while back Koen got angry. He resigned from the Familiar project.  He
> > > claimed that he was going to destroy handhelds.org by moving all the
> > > projects away.  He was only a member of one project on handhelds.org
> > > (Familar).   When his account was removed from the Familiar project, it
> > > was auto deactivated. There is no reason for anybody to have an active
> > > account if they are not part of any handhelds.org project.
> > >
> > > A while later I had to ban Koen from handhelds.org site for making
> > > misrepresentations and attacking others.  The GPE and OE folks got
> > > offended that he was banned.  About one week before banning Koen from
> > > the handhelds.org site, I did e-mail most of of the parties involved to
> > > give them the opportunity to take care of these issues.  If he behaves
> > > Koen is welcome. If he can not, then.....   It is up to him.
> > >
> > > There have been bad feeling since these two events.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --George
> > >
> > > > 2006/10/12, Koen Kooi <[email protected]>:
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> > > > >
> > > > > Nils Faerber schreef:
> > > > > > (And besides I am pretty annoyed of constantly being accused of
> > > > > > trying to steal something... this is simply not true, makes me
> > > > > > emotional too, but that's another story...).
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm curious how you as project founder and project leader can
> > > > > 'steal' gpe. I remember George telling me in the past "koen can't
> > > > > decide over gpe, only the project leader, Nils, can".
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah, well, I guess Nils' user account on hh.org will have an
> > > > > 'accident' soon, as has happened to other accounts. The price of
> > > > > freedom I guess.
> > > > >
> > > > > And this will be my last message to the gpe mailinglist on hh.org,
> > > > > since George has unsubscribed me from it without consulting Nils,
> > > > > the list administrator. The price of freedom I guess.
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