Re: Installation and use

Am Donnerstag, 2. Oktober 2008 schrieb Ashcroft, B.A.:
Hello,

>   I just decided to try to install familiar on my old hp3800.  When I
> say just, I mean 5 days ago of trying to get it to work.  I think
> this counts as a travel log...
I have got a hp3660 but that shoud not matter.
> I got the backup made and copied to main computer according to the
> instructions.  I then downloaded and copied the jjf file into the
> pocketpc.  I restarted the boot loader and happily had myself a linux
> box on my pocketpc. I then realized that there was absolutely no way 
> to transfer files to the pda.
Yes, there is.
> I tried the instructions for setting up the pda for usb (i have no
> serial port on my desktop)  but I could not load the new files into
> the PDA.
This way failed for me too.

> I tried using my wifes SD card, but it did not work. 
Did you reboot the pda after inserting the card? 

> I then went and found a older computer with a serial port (win 2k no
> possibliity of using it with linux as it does not have a network card
> and the usb stick only works with windows).  I succeeded in using the
> tty terminal to get to talk to the pda, but I could not transfer
> files.  Still stuck.  I then decided to take the PDA to work.
This is the way to go:

Cd to the directory where you want to drop your file(s).
Type:
rz <return>

You may see some garbage in the terminal window. Ignore that.
This starts a zmodem receiver program. Now tell youe terminal program to 
send a file using the zmodem protocol.
I sometimes had a lot of checksum errors while the trasfer was running, 
in the end the file was good. It just took much longer than it shoud.

> I should mention here that half the instruction files have dead links
> in them and I had to use the cached files from google to find
> instructions.  But sometimes the links would show up, but it was
> extremely difficult to find the way.
It seems there hasn't been put much work into Familiar for ages.
 
> At work I found the nice page of how to connect the device to w2k.  I
> went through all the steps and got a network connection set up for
> PPP.  I can do ipconfig and see that it is there and has been
> assigned a ip address.   But the network connection will no do
> anything.  I can ping it.  But it will not accept an ssh, tty, ftp or
> any other request.
I don't know if the w2k machine can be set up to route trafic from the 
ppp connection of the pda to network where the machine is connected to.
If so, than you can use ipkg on the pda to fetch packages from the 
internet.

> I also found the nice page that you can download 
> linux.inf and then connect with a usb cable.  This fails with the
> error that software is missing.  Also I cannot put the files on the
> PDA as I cannot connect the PDA.
I didn't get this to work too.

> I then decided to just try with a linux distribution.  I downloaded
> ubuntu, installed it.  fought with it to get it to connect to my
> network, and then tried to connect through my usb port (do not have a
> serial), and ubuntu could not recognize the device.  I tried to use
> open sync and kitchen sync and had no joy.  I then got distracted by
> all the fun packages.
Usung Kubuntu I couldn't load the usb-gadget driver. It's just not 
there. 

> So I basically have a brick as I cannot sync the device, I cannot
> access the files, I cannot even download enough software to make this
> run like the basic setup of pocket pc 2002.
You should be able to use the bootloader to flash your backup to get 
back to the place where you started.

> Can someone tell me what I need to do to get this device connected to
> anything?  I have the option of a w2k machine with cygwin and a
> serial port,  windows xp with a serial port, or ubuntu/windows xp
> with usb.  I would just like to be able to connect to the PDA and
> access it's filesystem.  Connecting it to the internet would be fun
> too, but just being able to load software on the machine would be
> enough.
You could try a Linix live cd on the machine with a serial port and 
configure it as a ppp server and enable routing. 
I would recommend Knoppix here, because it allows you to install 
packages you may need that are not on the disc.

> Just one more question is it possible to use the PDA as a usb memory
> stick.  This would be enough for me to use.
AFAIK there is no way. 

> Sorry for the long post,  any help is useful.
I hope there is anything useful inside.

Regards,
Dietmar.

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