Re: Future of OpenZaurus

"Nicolas FR" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.handhelds.openzaurus.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Thanks for your answer. I think it's important to have some feedbacks
of people like you who are the distro maintainers. Too bad there
aren't so many Zaurus developpers left today... I understand that
there are more users than developpers for OZ.

As always I'll try to contribute if I can.

Nicolas.

On 12/13/06, Marcin Juszkiewicz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dnia środa, 13 grudnia 2006 11:54, Nicolas FR napisał:
> > > > - having a working card applet
>
> > > find someone to hack one
>
> > Shouldn't that be the distro team duty?
>
> It could be. The problem is that we lack devs. For example I usually just
> pop card off when know that it is not used so I do not need such applet (I
> disabled/removed most of them). And cards are automounted so also do not
> feel a need for it.
>
> > Do not get me wrong, I try to collaborate as much as I can (I am not a
> > developper, I just like to play with the zaurus in my spare time and
> > tried to contribute some OE recipes), but the thread title was
> > "Openzaurus future".
>
> And I understand you (atleast trying to).
>
> > I was just thinking that even after 4 years Sharprom still has
> > userfriendly features that more recent distro cannot provide (card applet
> > is one, a decent browser is another,
>
> OPIE will rather do not get such stuff. X11 environments maybe will get
> newer browser when someone will finally find out what is wrong with
> firefox from our builds. We will provide newer dillo with some nice
> improvements (tabs, frames). But to get new soft someone need to get it
> working first.
>
> > no even talking about the suspend/resume bug of hostap cards - I know
> > this is tough bug to solve).
>
> This one need checking. And it occured in 2.6.17 and newer iirc.
>
> > So the question that I was raising was: how could that be improved. If
> > the answer is: "do it yourself", or "find someone to do it", this
> > means to me that I am right to stick with sharprom. So now the
> > question becomes: what are those alternative distro usefull for?
>
>
>
> > > > - a wireless assistant with WEP/WPA support
> > > wpa-gui provide one for GPE
> >
> > I tried wpa-gui. This is not the idea I have of a userfriendly app.
>
> I tried it only once. There are few other tools in feed - for example
> wifi-radar. OPIE will rather lack good tools for WiFi because there is
> nearly no developers for this platform.
>
> > This takes me back to the point of my post: isn't making a distro more
> > than packing softwares?
>
> For me it is making base images working and providing amount of software
> for people which want to use it, extend it and maybe even help with it.
> Due to fact that I have 2 machines at home which can not do WPA (tosa and
> progear) I'm stick with WEP.
>
>
> > How would it be possible to motivate developpers to make small usefull
> > utils for the Zaurus? Maybe the device is now to old to motivate
> > anyone to develop software for it (the traffic on the list tends to
> > prove it)...
>
> I think that Zaurus line is ended. Most of new devices are rather
> smartphones or wireless media devices then normal PDA. And it is hard to
> atract someone to Zaurus line due to lack of any wireless in them.
>
>
> > Maybe future release of Qtopia4.2 GPL will remotivate people to do
> > stuff for Zaurus?
>
> For opieII on Zaurus? Some people will switch, some will use it, maybe even
> some will start to write applications for it. Time will show.
>
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