Re: New install of OZ 3.5.4 on SL5500, where is qpe-base 1.5?

On 10/19/06, Michael Rozdoba <[email protected]> wrote:
> Justin Patrin wrote:
> > On 10/19/06, Roland Roberts <roland-jSlRgMHOlYjrZ44/[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> DO NOT USE SHARP-COMPAT LIBS!!!!!
> >>>
> >>> There, I hope that got your attention :) Marcin removed those for
> >>> the 3.5.4.x feeds to stop people from using them, but it seems
> >>> that wasn't enough.
>
> Well obviously. Surely you can see why?
>
> >> Okay, so the recommendation is...what?  Throw away my Z?  'Cause at
> >> this point, I don't seeem to have anything I can download from
> >> http://www.killefiz.de nor any of my old applications that will
> >> run.  The PIM applications are not enough for me to keep my Z...
> >>
> >
> > No, don't throw it away. Either 1) find a different app which can do
> > what you need in OZ
>
> Please suggest alternatives to the following. Personally, I'd like
> widely acknowledged equals or superior apps to:
> The Hancom apps, Softmaker's TextMaker & Opera.

I don't know. I don't use them mostly. Opie's spreadsheet alternative
seemed to work fine to me. GPE has Gnumeric, which also seems to work
fine to me.

>
> If something exists in current feeds I'd love to know :)

Go exploring. Look at the downloaded feeds lists and see if there's
anything that sound slike what you want. Use the feed searcher that
hrw set up and search for things. Try them and if they don't work out,
try finding an X app that does what you want, then get it into OE and
use it in GPE.

>
> > 2) pressure Sharp/Hancom to re-release their apps for OZ
>
> > (not likely)
>
> Quite, so forget option 2.
>
> > 3) switch back to the Sharp ROM so you can use these apps
>
> Hardly an ideal solution & not one that says much for OZ.

It depends on what you want. If you want to use the hancom apps then
you have to either use the Sharp rom or try the below. If you use Open
Source there's a little more risk involved. You need to find what you
need and possibly contribute to make it work or make it better.

>
> > 4) re-compile OZ without softfloat and try sharp-compat-libs there
>
> Perhaps someone will offer unsupported binaries for such an option. Are
> those two conditions adequate for backwards compatibility or are there
> any other gotchas?
>

It would be entire images and feeds. hardfloat is not compatible with
softfloat (which is what OZ is using). It's also slower than
softfloat. There may be other problems with running these apps on OZ,
but IIRC the major stumbling block is the softfloat. Once you set up
OE it's not hard to build an image but it's definately some work to
get it up and working and it will take work to keep up to date. No one
who wants the hancom apps has stepped up to support this option so
there's no option for it. We just don't have enough people to support
what will likely be an uphill battle in getting old and unsupported
software to work on a newer and more flexible platform. I really
recommend you find something in OZ/OE which does what you want and use
that (this will likely be in GPE, not Opie, but you never know) or
find some other open source software for linux and help to port it to
the Z (which is generally very little work for well written programs).

-- 
Justin Patrin

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