Re: New install of OZ 3.5.4 on SL5500, where is qpe-base 1.5?

Thanks for the comprehensive reply.

Justin Patrin wrote:
> On 10/19/06, Michael Rozdoba <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Please suggest alternatives to the following. Personally, I'd like 
>> widely acknowledged equals or superior apps to: The Hancom apps,
>> Softmaker's TextMaker & Opera.
> 
> I don't know. I don't use them mostly. Opie's spreadsheet alternative
>  seemed to work fine to me. GPE has Gnumeric, which also seems to
> work fine to me.
> 
>> If something exists in current feeds I'd love to know :)
> 
> Go exploring. Look at the downloaded feeds lists and see if there's 
> anything that sound slike what you want. Use the feed searcher that 
> hrw set up and search for things. Try them and if they don't work
> out, try finding an X app that does what you want, then get it into
> OE and use it in GPE.

My main pda is/was an SL6000. There were too many bugs for my needs to
make OZ/Opie usable last I tried. I'm hoping this has changed with the
2.6 kernel which I'll test again soon. FWIW In the past the
suspend/resume issues, failure for alarms to wake the unit from sleep &
the annoying screen rendering problem were not acceptable to me.

I did follow dev for quite a while back when Bitkeeper was in use & 
built my own feeds but this was over a year ago iirc.

>>> 2) pressure Sharp/Hancom to re-release their apps for OZ (not
>>> likely)
>> Quite, so forget option 2.
>> 
>>> 3) switch back to the Sharp ROM so you can use these apps
>> Hardly an ideal solution & not one that says much for OZ.
> 
> It depends on what you want. If you want to use the hancom apps then 
> you have to either use the Sharp rom or try the below. If you use
> Open Source there's a little more risk involved. You need to find
> what you need and possibly contribute to make it work or make it
> better.

Indeed. It's a shame OE doesn't have more developers, but that's
recognised, so no point harping on about it here.

>>> 4) re-compile OZ without softfloat and try sharp-compat-libs
>>> there
>> Perhaps someone will offer unsupported binaries for such an option.
>> Are those two conditions adequate for backwards compatibility or
>> are there any other gotchas?
>> 
> 
> It would be entire images and feeds.

I realise, otherwise I might have done this myself for those
occasionally asking (there's no way I could host such a beast anywhere).

> hardfloat is not compatible with softfloat (which is what OZ is
> using). It's also slower than softfloat. There may be other problems
> with running these apps on OZ, but IIRC the major stumbling block is
> the softfloat. Once you set up OE it's not hard to build an image but
> it's definately some work to get it up and working and it will take
> work to keep up to date.

I know. I gave up when there was no sign of SL6000 support improving
quickly.

> No one who wants the hancom apps has stepped up to support this
> option so there's no option for it. We just don't have enough people
> to support what will likely be an uphill battle in getting old and
> unsupported software to work on a newer and more flexible platform. I
> really recommend you find something in OZ/OE which does what you want
> and use that (this will likely be in GPE, not Opie, but you never
> know) or find some other open source software for linux and help to
> port it to the Z (which is generally very little work for well
> written programs).

At least with Tosa being VGA, GPE should offer a good solution, if bugs
are tolerable now. Alarms failing from sleep were a killer for me & even 
the cosmetic only redraw bug specific to Tosa was sufficiently annoying 
I don't think I could put up with it - but cosmetic stuff bugs me (I 
like pretty & clean UIs).

Thanks again.

-- 
Michael
m r o z a t u k g a t e w a y d o t n e t

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