Re: Opie's future

wim delvaux <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.handhelds.opie.devel
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On Wednesday 16 November 2005 19:06, Neuman, Ben J., A&M IRM wrote:
> Very informative. Thank you.
> So where to now? GPE? Hildon? QT4? What do you see as the best emerging GUI
> platform for embedded Linux?
	
	For me (writing software for professionals on mobile devices) platform
	neutrality is key. I want to write apps that CAN run on wce and Linux
	(at least for as long as no good linux devices are available).  Since the
	Qt boys seem to have postponed that plan, It leaves me no choise then
	to switch to wxwidgets/GTK and hence GPE.  Also Nokia, being a non
	trivial player (much more important that SHARP ever was) might bring
	some additional leverage to GPE. 

	However WxWidgets/GTK sure need some improvements (non natural
	programming interface, non consistant API and ugly GUI and less mature
	IMHO) ;-(

	W

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wim delvaux [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:27 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Opie-devel] Opie's future
>
>
> I can subscribe that !
>
> W
>
> On Wednesday 16 November 2005 17:22, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 16.11.2005, 09:12 -0500 schrieb Neuman, Ben J., A&M
> >
> > IRM:
> > > I am a huge fan of the work you guys have done on Opie and am very sad
>
> to
>
> > > hear it's future might be in jeopardy. Is this true?
> >
> > It is - somewhat - true. If you recapitulate the history of Opie you
> > will notice that there was a time when we had ~20 contributors. Most of
> > them have jumped ship due to several reasons. The most important ones
> > are [in my subjective view of order of relevance]:
> >
> > * Sharp dropping the Zaurus from all but the japanese markets
> > * Opie still using the (outdated) Qt/Embedded 2.3.x
> > * OpenZaurus being binary incompatible with Qtopia apps
> > * Opie and Qtopia diverging in source level APIs
> > * No attractive Qtopia devices since years (Yes, I know about Olympus
> > and Archos)
> > * Unclear Opie roadmap, goals, and identity
> >
> > These reasons not only affected Opie directly but also third party
> > authors writing applications based on the Qtopia API.
> >
> > Nowadays, a major part of the remaining Opie contributors seem to be
> > more interested in going away from Qt/Embedded since a) X no longer is
> > bloaty or slow compared to Qt/Embedded and b) a small community like us
> > no longer can afford ruling out millions of applications just because of
> > direct framebuffer access. Still we very much love Qt as an application
> > development framework and want to continue using it.
> >
> > Personally, I consider Opie being more or less frozen except for
> > bugfixes and perhaps additional device adaptions. I just can't stand the
> > limitations of Qt 2.x any longer and I quit believing in the value of
> > exclusive framebuffer access.
> > That aside, I'm still very interested in writing open source software
> > for mobile linux devices and I hope that -- after completing my Ph.D.
> > next summer -- I can return to writing software for X11-based mobile
> > devices using Qt/X11 4.x and/or Gtkmm/Hildon.
> >
> > The future of Linux on mobile devices has just begun and it's exciting
> > to be a part of it.
>
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