Re: Re: [Opie-cvs] opie/library locationcombo.cpp, 1.1 locationcombo.h, 1.1 global.cpp, 1.29 global.h, 1.4 library.pro, 1.37 qlibrary_unix.cpp, 1.8 timestring.cpp, 1.8 timestring.h, 1.6

Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
> Hi guys, see my comments in the message body.
> 
> Dmitriy
> 
> 
> 
> Lorn Potter wrote:
> 
>> Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for adding camera2, but I'm _very_ uneasy about that part of the
>>> commit.
>>>
>>> 1.) the commit message makes no sense, this is /library, what has it to
>>> do with video4linux?
>>> 2.) you just toss random stuff into _the_ core library of Opie without
>>> giving us a chance to review.
>>
>>
>> not at all random, but trying to get libqpe up to date and more 
>> compatible with Qtopia.
>>
>>> 3.) you change the API and ABI of a stable library without giving us a
>>> chance to review.
>>>
>>> Opie development may be effectively dead,
>>
>>
>> Then why does it matter to you and why bring this up, if you or 
>> everyone else is not interested in developing Opie?
>> I am, and I am going to proceed with changes I see fit, otherwise I 
>> will simply start my own project, and make changes there as I see fit.
>>
>> You don't have to agree with my changes, I certainly do not agree with 
>> all the changes everyone has made, but I did not cause a stink because 
>> whoever developer wanted them in.
>>
>>
> I don't agree that that the OPIE development is dead. Otherwise we all 
> should switch to GPE.
> But the question is if you Lorn is a core developer, if he is 
> responsible for his commits that they don't break the code stability (I 
> mean not the quality and stability of the code you can write but the 
> whole architecture you can follow). If yes, then everything is ok. If 
> no, why do you have an access to the core code.

I have been a "core" developer for 4 years. Probably longer than anyone 
else who actively develops Opie. I have been involved with zaurus 
development since before the first Zaurus was publically released.


> I don't agree with you that it's possible to work on the project if some 
> of us will disagree with the changes of each other. If we would like to 
> make a really working system we need to help each other -- not to 
> conflict each other.

Disagreements have always been part of Opie development. I don't agree 
with quite a lot of things that are part of opie, but live with it, as 
this is a community project.


> 
>>  but we have to defend the
>>
>>> quality of a stable tree, so I would recommend reverting these changes
>>> until we can get over them one by one.
>>>
>>
>> When have I ever been included with any review of any changes? or for 
>> that matter, when has there ever been ANY discussions/review, except 
>> maybe perhaps in #opie.de.
>>
>> When has HEAD _ever_ been known as the stable tree on any project?
>>
>>
> Sorry, in our case we MUST care about the _HEAD_ of the tree stbility. 

HEAD is where active development takes place, a branch is where 
stability happens. and yes, HEAD breaks from time to time.


> Look, we don't have a testing lab with 1024 guys running test 24 hours a 
> day. Our typical tester is an "ordinary user" who decided to "check what 
> is this Linux on PDA thing is". If this guy sees that this Linux crashes 
> often, he'll say: "Oh, this Linux thing is just a toy for babies, 
> nothing more" (this "toy for babies" I've really read in one of the 
> local Linux discussion groups and had to spend some efforts to prove to 
> the rest that familiar Linux is quite stable to try).
> Next, I was a man spending my time trying (YES, still trying, you know) 
> to make all this blue tooth stuff work together. It's still not a 
> beautifull system, there are some big pieces of code that do the same 
> work or do nothing, but in the beginning there were many pieces that 
> didn't even work together!
> 
and it is appreciated.

> Resume. Guys, as I called you for in my previous posts, let's cooperate 
> in our work and try to discuss the changes we are going to make, let's 
> discuss what we can do BEFORE we do this. We are all good programmers, 
> so let's make a good code rather then wasting our time trying to show 
> the rest of the world, who is the coolest, the first is much more 
> interesting.

Discuss with whom?!?
There are no active developers except probably you.
Library hasn't been touched in well over a year, and it is time it gets 
updated with more recent changes that happened in Qtopia. Same goes for 
server.





-- 
Lorn 'ljp' Potter
Trolltech Qtopia Community Manager
Opie Core Developer
http://qtopia.net
_______________________________________________

http://opie.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/DeveloperWikiIndex

Opie-devel mailing list
[email protected]
https://handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/opie-devel