Re: Opie and OpenEmbedded

> On Sunday 29 October 2006 19:49, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
>> Paul,
>> I agree with you. If you would take care about OPIE packages and
>> distribution it would be nice. From my site, I can take care about
>> bluetooth/OBEX development (I'd like to make OBEX part do data exchange
>> without external utilities, and I'd like to make OPIE device work with
>> bluetooth keyboards and (probably) with BT headsets). I may also take
>> care about new patches.
>> In my oppinion, there are two things we are really need - the "marketing
>> requirements" and testing.
>> 1. Marketing requirements.
>> We need a list of features we would like to see in the next release.
>> Everything that is really needed will be done soon.
>
> I think the next release should be 'Opie II' (or, Opie 4), based on the
> soon
> to be GPL'd Qtopia 4.

great !
I hope opie will back alive

>> 2. Testing.
>> We need a team of users/supporters/volunteers who may test new features
>> on their devices and help newcomers start using OPIE.
>> I see some bad examples especially in local community like this one:
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>--------------------------------- Newbie: - I have installed OPIE.
>> Nothing
>> works. Can someone help me. Coder: - What platform do you use? Describe
>> your problem, please.
>> NB: - iPAQ xxxx. The problem is simple. Nothing works.
>> Coder: - Sorry, I have another model. Visit opie.handhelds.org or #opie.
>> There are many guys who may help you.
>> Provocator: - You see, this is the typical opsorce. Nothing works, no
>> tech support. That's why I use Windows.
>> .... Lame and flame ...
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>---------------------------------- This is my view. If anyone can help to
>> solve these two problems, his help would be very highly appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dmitriy
>>
>
> That is a very typical response. You can always say, 'it works for me!'
>
> Linux and open source are mostly about being able to do it yourself. No
> one
> has ever stated Opie came with support. There is no business or company
> behind Opie selling or giving support for it.
>
> We are all volunteers and do what we feel like doing. Support isn't
> usually
> one of the things engineers like to do. We cannot support devices we do
> not
> own.
>
> Most support must come from the people that distribute our software. They
> have
> that responsibility to their users. They have to figure out if its a bug
> in
> the underlying system, or in Opie. (sometimes its difficult to figure out
> which) In turn, Opie devs have a responsibility to support the people that
> use our code - mainly the distributions.
>
>
>
>
>> Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
>> >Hello Michael,
>> >
>> >Saturday, October 14, 2006, 2:43:11 PM, you wrote:
>> >>Dear Opie developers,
>> >
>> >[]
>> >
>> >>I'd like to encourage someone of the active Opie developers
>> >>to take care about everything Opie (and consequently Qt/Embedded)
>> >>in OpenEmbedded.
>> >
>> >  I followed situation around OPIE for some before your mail, and even
>> >more closely after it. I know from communication on IRC that many more
>> >people did. We all waited if someone with OPIE experience will respond
>> >to this call, and appears that nobody did. Taking into account that
>> >OPIE removal from OE is already being scheduled, and after considering
>>
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