Re: qt-SDK GUI for opie

Dnia czwartek, 9 listopada 2006 10:04, Dmitriy Korovkin napisał:

> > Qtopia 4 sources will be released GPL. Opie II _will_ happen. and we
> > do have programmers, if no one else.. than me.
> >
> > I would rather plan now before we have sources, so we know what we are
> > going to do with it. It's not a small change.

> Agree. So, once you are the only person who have seen this thing, what
> is your propose? What do you mean by OPIE II?
> Take a Qtopia4 sources and change them?

IIRC this

> Port the existing applications (which?) to Qtopia?

> What are the advantages of moving to Qtopia4?

OPIE II will base on Qt4 so some developers will work again on OPIE. For 
example I refuse to do any new development for OPIE 1.2 but will do some 
when we will get Qt4 based version.

> >From my point I see that there is enough work to be done on the current
> > OPIE as

> follows as:
> - Improve office (OpieWrite, OpieSheet) tools;

Please do not call them office tools.. Abiword + Gnumeric are office tools 
and I can run them on same PDA.

> - Get a Web browser (konqueror?, port mozilla to OPIE? take Nokia
> browser core?)

Konqueror4 will be easier to port to OPIE II then to current one. In 
OpenEmbedded we have Konqueror from 2006 year built for Qt/e 2.3 but it 
need changes for each distro which was released (qte -> qte-mt) and still 
need work to get it nicely working.

> - Improve OBEX stuff (forget about external utilities) (I'll take care
> on this).

For me OPIE can depend on external utils as long as they are properly used 
and maintained. I do not like to re-inwent wheel (especially when one day 
developer which did it will left project).

> - Do something with external applications
> (http://www.handheld-linux.com/swi/index.php)

How many of external applications are still maintained? How many of them 
are worth using? I think that this is rather small amount. 

Too many of them were written in SL-5500 times when QVGA was the only 
resolution which existed so programs looks like shit on VGA or higher. 
IIRC you have QVGA ipaq so you can ignore that but I mostly use VGA 
palmtops so it matters for me.

> Will moving to Qtopia4 help us to solve one of these problems?

OPIE is stagnated, OPIE does not get any new developers (which write apps, 
not port to another PDA), more and more core developers refuse to do any 
work on OPIE etc..

Moving to Qt4 can change it - just because you get new, up-to-date toolkit 
instead of few years old forgotten-by-normal-developers one.

> Lorn, without clear understanding of what we are going to do all the
> project will be like a way to communism - just a longest anecdote.

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