Re: opie trademark

George France wrote:
> Hi Lorn,
> 
> Handhelds.org has never used the sourceforge model. It was purposely 
> designed not to use that model.  It has a complete architecture.  The 
> firmware works with the kernel, that works with the base distribution, which 
> works with the gui layer on the top.  

Essentially, you are saying that you own the projects (at least the 
name) hosted at handhelds.org. whereby, me and a few other developers 
who worked on it, actually own it.
Handhelds.org is a _hosting_ web site, like sourceforge.net, that hosts 
projects, like Opie.
See this page:
http://www.handhelds.org/geeklog/links.php?category=Projects
"Handhelds.org Hosted Projects"


It was Chris Larwson that started Opie and Jason Perlow who thought up 
of the name, and who probably actually owns the name, unless he has 
given you specific rights to it.

How can you claim to own the names to these projects?

and checking the status on your trademark, it is not yet actually 
registered, only filed, as of March 6, 2007, and not yet assigned to an 
examining attorney.



> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> 
> --George
> 
> On Sunday 13 May 2007 05:09 pm, Lorn Potter wrote:
>> Hey George,
>> Yes, I personally did start an opieII project with te Qtopia 4 source code.
>>
>> It was my understanding that handhelds.org was merely a host for
>> projects - like sourceforge.
>>
>> George France wrote:
>>  > Hi Lorn,
>>  >
>>  > That is not very accurate.  There is nothing new going on. Opie has
>>
>> always been a trademark of handhelds.org, please see:
>>  >     http://www.handhelds.org/legal
>>  >
>>  > It is now a "registered" trademark, as part of some legal house
>>
>> cleaning.  A formal trademark usage policy for trademarks should be
>> posted on http://www.handhelds.org, near the 1st of the month after the
>> legal folks have finished their review.  I expect it to be very similar
>> to the ubuntu policy.
>>
>> except ubuntu is a distribution not a site that hosts open source projects.
>>
>>  > ..and no it is not "all" the projects, as you are implying...
>>  >
>>  > I would however appreciate that you disclose any conflict of interest
>>
>> when posting such messages.  I believe you attempted to started an
>> "opieII" project at another site?
>>
>> There is no conflict of interest, I am still a member of Opie at
>> handhelds.org.
>>
>>  > Sincerely,
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > --George France
>>  > CEO, Handhelds.org, Inc.
>>  > One of the founders of handhelds.org, 1999.
>>  >
>>  > On Sunday 13 May 2007 03:10 am, Lorn Potter wrote:
>>  >> Just a heads up to all.
>>  >> George France has taken it upon himself to trademark the names of
>>  >> projects hosted by handhelds.org.
>>  >>
>>  >> This was filed March 6, 2007.
>>  >>
>>  >> Serial Number      77123610
>>  >>
>>  >>
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-- 
Lorn 'ljp' Potter
Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech

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