Re: opie trademark

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, George France wrote:
> Lorn,
>
> On Friday 01 June 2007 03:50 pm, Lorn Potter wrote:
> > George France wrote:
> > > Lorn,
> > >
> > > You have been complaining and trying to upset folks for almost two
> > > weeks now. I have let this go on long enough  There are lots of
> > > solutions.  I and others even proposed several of them:
> >
> > Excuse me, it is YOU (as in GF and handhelds.org) whom are upsetting the
> > most folks here! I am just the one being vocal about it, because I have
> > spent 5 years of my life promoting and working in the project.
> >
> > What makes you think you have the right to steal Ben's free and open
> > source project name? hh.org is a frickin HOSTING service. You do NOT own
> > OPIE! Who gave you the right to the name Opie?
> >
> > YOU (and whatever lawyer(s) decided they needed to trademark names they
> > have no right to) are the one who is doing all this to us and your
> > community. I am merely speaking up.
> >
> > > 	1)  follow the trademark policy and get a license.
> >
> > you (hh.org & you) don't rightfully own the trademark, and it is not yet
> > registered, nor even reviewed.
>
> What you are saying is not true.  It does not have to be registered to be
> valid and enforceable. Handhelds.org already owns the mark.  Registration
> is just the icing on the cake.

Please elaborate on just how hh.org owns the name "Opie"? Simply by virtue of
hosting a project? By using it on the web site?
When did Ben hand over the ownership of the project?
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