Fwd: Re: opie trademark
Paul Eggleton <[email protected]> Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:41:22 +1200
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Forwarding as per request. If you want to reply to Russ then you'll need to reply to him directly as well as to the list as he isn't subscribed. - Paul ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [Opie] opie trademark Date: Saturday 02 June 2007 06:17 From: Russ Nelson <[email protected]> To: Paul Eggleton <[email protected]> Please forward this to the Opie list. I'm not subscribed to it. -russ Paul Eggleton writes: > I have previously stayed silent on this issue, but I have to say that I am > dismayed by the recent turn of events at handhelds.org regardless of their > cause. Bringing trademarks into the matter has been hugely divisive. No, that's not the problem. The problem is that (at least for GPE), both parties believe that they own the name, and can put forth a reasonable argument, by community norms. For better or worse, Handhelds.org was the first to use the name in trade, which in the U.S. gives it the trademark. George is only seeking a trademark (which he plans to assign to Handhelds.org, Inc.) to enforce a claim on the project that he believes, by community norms, is legitimate. For his part, Florian is trying to sway public opinion against George by making his actions seem illegitimate, as if Nils owned the project without dispute, and George was trying to steal it. In other words, both parties can't resolve their claims by community norms and both are seeking other means of enforcing their claim to GPE. I haven't looked into the details of the Opie name, but if you think you own something that somebody else also thinks they own, THAT is divisive. Attempting to enforce that claim is only to be expected. So what are we, as a community, to do? Who owns the project named 'GPE'? Who owns the project named 'Opie'? It's not clear, by the rules we've always followed. We need to make new rules. There's a hint, in trademark law. If two parties are using the same name in conflict (e.g. Snyder's Pretzels), then both must take steps to ensure that they are not confused with the other. We may choose to accept or reject that hint. -- --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com | In my head, I'm Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | violating your 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-323-1241 | software patent. Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog | So sue me! ------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Open Source User Interface and Apps built on Qt Embedded Opie mailing list [email protected] https://handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/opie