Re: Fwd: [H1900-port] Uninstalling useless packages

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Luigi Girotti wrote:
> It has been more than a week as I was mainly using OPIE on my h1915.
> The overall impression for now is that the system is far away from
> something usable. Despite the bootloader is fine and works very well,
> the OPIE is not stable and crashes every time it founds a chance.

Well I can only say that I do not see a general instability in Opie on my iPAQ 
(h3850). I strongly suspect something else is wrong here. Did you verify the 
md5sum of the image before writing it to make sure it was not corrupt? Which 
version of Opie is being used in the image you installed?

> Another 5% of utilities and applications are not applicable to my device,
> e.g. bluetooth and wifi stuff. 

That's an issue with the image you installed, not Opie. Ideally the image 
built for h191x should not include these packages, I agree. However, the Opie 
Package Manager should let you uninstall whichever packages you want to.

> About 10% of the available tools wouldn't start at all. 
>...
> About 15 to 20% of supplies tools and apps have serious 
> usability problems, so that I couldn't figure how to use them and
> there were no "quick start" description for them.

I'm sorry you are having trouble, but really these percentages don't help us 
at all. If you want assistance you will need to be more specific, ie, which 
applications specifically don't start, where specifically are there usability 
problems, etc.

> Generally I'm quiet disappointed about the whole thing with with linux
> on the handheld devices. The lack of support and community around it
> makes me mostly struggling alone with my problems. I couldn't find any
> useful documentation about the system too, making the  whole experience by
> clicking and seeing what's happening. 

To my knowledge there's only one person working on the h191x port, which by 
the way (to the best of my knowledge) is not officially supported by any 
distribution yet. You must recognise too that handheld devices are not like 
PCs - each one is different internally and therefore Linux must be ported to 
each one separately. The Opie project also has limited resources. 

We do our best :)

> Despite these, the homepage of OPIE as well as the homepage of my
> device on the handhelds.org looks like 10 years out of date and a hell
> to navigate or find information. Reading the site news I got an
> impression that the owners of handhelds.org are more busy with some
> trademark issues with a bunch of GPE developers who wanted to left
> their hosting and open their own.

Well, I can't really say anything about that, it's not my area. I can say that 
the lack of updates on the Opie site and to Opie itself have nothing to do 
with that - we just have a limited number of people to work on things. The 
good news is that we are very close to a new release of Opie right now - one 
that improves stability and fixes a lot of bugs. I hope that the new release 
will attract new interest in Opie again.

Cheers,
Paul
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