Re: How I moved from DateBk to iOS

Hi all,

I also like very much DateBk but no luck on iOs, I am reading about Pocket Informant and WeekCal both are good but if you need something closer to BateBk on iOs have a look at Calengoo it support iOs calendar, Google calendar, Google Task - recurring tasks - floating tasks - and a lot of possibilities of customizations. The learning is a little steep but if you used BateBk you know that it's not always easy to have a good Calendar app.
I have no connections with Calengoo except that I am a very satisfied customer.

Luc

--- In [email protected], Kevin Quosig <kevin@...> wrote:
>
> THE SHORT ANSWER:
> I went with Pocket Informant.
> 
> THE LONG ANSWER:
> (With apologies to Pimlico...I just LOVED DateBk. 
> Best...calendar...app...ever. Still is, IMHO. But myself and 
> others here wanted to move to the iOS. So I'm answering a 
> question so many of us ask here.)
> 
> When searching for a new smart device as my Centro ages, I was 
> dismayed that there was no way to get a "smart" phone anymore 
> without a data plan, which I have no need for. I don't text and 
> I don't surf the web on my phone. Apparently the Centro was the 
> last of that breed. But I do have need for little pocket apps 
> like DateBk, SplashID, and other utilities that are far beyond 
> the capabilities of "dumb" phones. For years I carried a Palm 
> Pilot and "dumb" phone separately, but once you've had 
> convergence, it's hard to contemplate going back to two separate devices.
> 
> On the other side, as much as I loved Palm, they more than once, 
> and finally rather permanently, abandoned Mac users. Palm 
> Desktop was rather flakey, and I had to rely on the wonderful, 
> but third-party, Missing Sync to get any useful backup of the 
> Centro's content (or get data onto the phone). This has annoyed 
> me for years now.
> 
> So my main decision to go iOS as a primarily Mac user was one of 
> mitigating being orphaned/abandoned...which is a likely scenario 
> with Windows Mobile, Palm, Android, etc. Frankly the Android was 
> very tempting, but given Apple-Google sparring and the 
> fragmentation of the OS, I decided I would rather have the 
> stability, if sometimes weird-thinking, and "sure to work with 
> my Mac" of iOS. Just my take on things, YMMV.
> 
> The other problem was the way DateBk started focusing on the 
> desktop. In my case, I live and worked ON THE DEVICE. I rarely 
> used the desktop end except as backup or when the phone died, 
> was left at home, etc. I wanted to use it in meetings and on the 
> fly...and having "full function on the desktop, but stuck with 
> built-in features on the phone" was not an option.
> 
> So in the end I spent alot of time researching feature sets, and 
> found that many DateBk users had moved to Pocket Informant--to 
> the point where the developers were all too familiar with people 
> asking "DateBk does this, can Pocket Informant?" Also helps that 
> PI is available on every popular mobile platform: Blackberry, 
> Droid, iOS, etc. So no matter where you headed after Palm, you 
> could get PI.
> 
> Does it do everything DB does? Nope, but in my case, fairly 
> close, and coming releases look to be filling those gaps. To be 
> fair, Pocket Informant for the iOS is just getting to version 
> 2--DateBk was on version 6 and has been around for what, a 
> decade? No way anyone can expect feature parity given that disparity.
> 
> I did have to re-adjust the way I do things, which is expected 
> for any switch. I've had the most difficulty "avoiding the 
> cloud." Many modern iOS apps rely on the cloud (Google, 
> ToodleDo, etc.) to get around the iOS's annoying "can only sync 
> things on ONE machine" (unlike Palm's "I can sync on every 
> machine you own and keep them all straight"--I used to sync at 
> home and at work on the Palm), since I do NOT want my data in 
> the cloud. But that's an Apple problem, not PI's. And PI may be 
> getting around that in version 2 (and a Mac desktop app is 
> planned in the future).
> 
> The developers are great, and the company is small enough where 
> the CEO often answers Forum questions. I spoke at length with 
> one of the iOS devs at MacWorld. PI 2.0, coming very soon, is 
> even supposedly going to work around the problem of 
> device-to-device syncing (keeping say, an iPad and iPhone with 
> the same PI data on them).
> 
> In my case, I was given a work incentive that made getting an 
> iPad cheap, which became my laptop and "big PDA." For more 
> convenience, and through another incentive, I'll be using an 
> iPod Touch paired with it. I'm slowly moving my data off the 
> Centro as needed and when it dies in the future, it'll be 
> replaced probably by the smallest "dumb" phone I can get with 
> good reception, or whatever the "free with a plan" phone is at 
> the time.
> 
> Seriously, DateBk is still the best datebook application I've 
> ever used (and on the flip side, iCal is by far the worst). And 
> in many ways I can see why Pimlico didn't jump to iOS. DateBk 
> was created on the most popular (and pretty much ONLY) PDA at 
> the time by ONE man. When PalmOS vanished, I can certainly 
> understand moving to where most of his customers went 
> (apparently Android). And to be further fair, Android will at 
> some point (if not already) outsell iOS. iOS, Apple's approval 
> process, etc. can also be infuriating. For Apple/iOS users, 
> that's just the way it goes, and I certainly won't be bitter 
> about it. Though I can't help being sad to leave such a 
> powerful, feature-rich application behind. :(
>



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