Re: Re: Transitioning from Palm
"martin trotter ha4mnu-gM/[email protected] [GtD_Palm]" <[email protected]> Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:21:18 +0000
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--001a113c3800939691050a71bbea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I never did like reading documents on my palm or a tablet. Need a e-ink ebook reader to do it comfortably. Martin N On 17 December 2014 at 18:34, dmccunney [email protected] [GtD_Palm] <[email protected]> wrote: > > I still have and use a Palm TX. Fortunately, a New Zealand outfit > came up with a beta driver that allows it to hotsync with Palm Desktop > on 64 bit Windows machines, but I seldom actually do so. > > Aside from the standard Palm Address Book, Calendar, Todo, Memo, > what-have-you functionality, the principal use case for my PDA has > historically been eBook viewer. I first got a Palm OS device about 15 > years ago when a then employer decided that IT staff should have PDAs, > and a Handspring Visor Deluxe running Palm OS 3.1 appeared on my desk. > I subsequently used a Handspring Visor Pro, Palm Tungsten E, and > Tapwave Zodiac 2 before getting the current device. > > I went looking for things that would aid me in my work as a system > administrator. An early discovery was Plucker, an open source offline > HTML viewer for Palm devices. The Plucker Desktop was cross platform > and available for Windows, Linux, and OS/X. It could "pluck" websites > and convert content to a form viewable in the Plucker viewer on the > PDA. IT worked fine for local HTML as well, and a lot of the > documentation for the stuff I used was in HTML format, so I could > carry a searchable documentation library in my pocket. It wasn't long > till I discovered I could comfortably read other stuff that way, so > lots of things on Project Gutenberg and elsewhere got converted and > add. At this point, there are about 4,000 Plucker documents on the > 4GB SD card in the TX. > > The first target for the Mobipocket eBook effort was the Palm, and > most Amazon Kindle eBook offerings display in the Palm Mobi reader > program. A variety of stuff was issued in Palm Reader/eReader format, > and I had viewers for plain text, Word/RTF, and PDF files, so I could > read pretty much anything. The only issue was remembering what > documents were in what format read by what reader. > > These days a generic Android tablet running Android 4.2.2 Jellybean is > the principal eBook viewer. I use the open source FBReaderJ program, > which views ePub, Mobi, FB2, and (via plugins) PDF and DjVu files. > FBReaderJ got the nod because I didn't have to *care* what format the > eBook was in. As long as it wasn't encumbered with DRM, I could read > it, and I don't *get* eBooks with DRM. > > I still have a fair bit of stuff in Plucker format I can't read on the > tablet, but I am gradually replacing the Plucker versions with ePub. > Meanwhile, the version of FBReader for Windows, Linux, and OS/X *does* > display Plucker files as well as ePub/Mobi/FB2, so I can use something > besides the PDA to view them. > > A lot of the personal productivity stuff done on the Palm can be done > on the tablet. On the Palm side, I used to sync with Outlook, and > made it a reflex to add anyone I was likely to communicate with more > than once to my Outlook Contacts files, which became the basis of the > Palm Address book contents. I hotsynced the PDA at home and at the > office, so anything added in one location was propagated to the other > next hotsync, giving me redundancy and backup copies. > > These days I use Gmail as my main email account, and Gmail Contacts > serves the purposes Outlook used to, with Google Calendar taking over > for Datebook. While I *could* theoretically do email on the PDA, I > didn't. Too much of what I got and needed to reply to really needed > to be viewed on a larger screen, and needed a lengthier response than > a PDA made convenient, even *with* a folding external keyboard. Email > simply waited till I was in a convenient place to handle it with big > screen and keyboard. I can do email fairly well on the tablet with a > USB keyboard, but generally don't. > > The only issue with the PDA is sharing data, as there isn't really a > good way to sync what's on the PDA with what's in the cloud. This has > not been a deal breaker. The critical stuff (mostly the contacts) now > largely exists on PDA, tablet, and cloud, and if the PDA broke > tomorrow it would not be a calamity, as everything I do on it is > doable elsewhere. > -- E&OE GMail crawls every so often on my internet connection :( --001a113c3800939691050a71bbea Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> =20 <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p>I never did like reading documents on my palm or a tablet.<br><br>= Need a e-ink ebook reader to do it comfortably.<br><br>Martin N<br><br><br>= <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 17 December 2014 at 18:34, dmccunney <a h= ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [GtD= _Palm] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" ta= rget=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote c= lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;">I still have and= use a Palm TX.=C2=A0 Fortunately, a New Zealand outfit<br> came up with a beta driver that allows it to hotsync with Palm Desktop<br> on 64 bit Windows machines, but I seldom actually do so.<br> <br> Aside from the standard Palm Address Book, Calendar, Todo, Memo,<br> what-have-you functionality, the principal use case for my PDA has<br> historically been eBook viewer.=C2=A0 I first got a Palm OS device about 15= <br> years ago when a then employer decided that IT staff should have PDAs,<br> and a Handspring Visor Deluxe running Palm OS 3.1 appeared on my desk.<br> I subsequently used a Handspring Visor Pro, Palm Tungsten E, and<br> Tapwave Zodiac 2 before getting the current device.<br> <br> I went looking for things that would aid me in my work as a system<br> administrator.=C2=A0 An early discovery was Plucker, an open source offline= <br> HTML viewer for Palm devices.=C2=A0 The Plucker Desktop was cross platform<= br> and available for Windows, Linux, and OS/X.=C2=A0 It could "pluck"= ; websites<br> and convert content to a form viewable in the Plucker viewer on the<br> PDA.=C2=A0 IT worked fine for local HTML as well, and a lot of the<br> documentation for the stuff I used was in HTML format, so I could<br> carry a searchable documentation library in my pocket.=C2=A0 It wasn't = long<br> till I discovered I could comfortably read other stuff that way, so<br> lots of things on Project Gutenberg and elsewhere got converted and<br> add.=C2=A0 At this point, there are about 4,000 Plucker documents on the<br= > 4GB SD card in the TX.<br> <br> The first target for the Mobipocket eBook effort was the Palm, and<br> most Amazon Kindle eBook offerings display in the Palm Mobi reader<br> program.=C2=A0 A variety of stuff was issued in Palm Reader/eReader format,= <br> and I had viewers for plain text, Word/RTF, and PDF files, so I could<br> read pretty much anything.=C2=A0 The only issue was remembering what<br> documents were in what format read by what reader.<br> <br> These days a generic Android tablet running Android 4.2.2 Jellybean is<br> the principal eBook viewer.=C2=A0 I use the open source FBReaderJ program,<= br> which views ePub, Mobi, FB2, and (via plugins) PDF and DjVu files.<br> FBReaderJ got the nod because I didn't have to *care* what format the<b= r> eBook was in.=C2=A0 As long as it wasn't encumbered with DRM, I could r= ead<br> it, and I don't *get* eBooks with DRM.<br> <br> I still have a fair bit of stuff in Plucker format I can't read on the<= br> tablet, but I am gradually replacing the Plucker versions with ePub.<br> Meanwhile, the version of FBReader for Windows, Linux, and OS/X *does*<br> display Plucker files as well as ePub/Mobi/FB2, so I can use something<br> besides the PDA to view them.<br> <br> A lot of the personal productivity stuff done on the Palm can be done<br> on the tablet.=C2=A0 On the Palm side, I used to sync with Outlook, and<br> made it a reflex to add anyone I was likely to communicate with more<br> than once to my Outlook Contacts files, which became the basis of the<br> Palm Address book contents.=C2=A0 I hotsynced the PDA at home and at the<br= > office, so anything added in one location was propagated to the other<br> next hotsync, giving me redundancy and backup copies.<br> <br> These days I use Gmail as my main email account, and Gmail Contacts<br> serves the purposes Outlook used to, with Google Calendar taking over<br> for Datebook.=C2=A0 While I *could* theoretically do email on the PDA, I<br= > didn't.=C2=A0 Too much of what I got and needed to reply to really need= ed<br> to be viewed on a larger screen, and needed a lengthier response than<br> a PDA made convenient, even *with* a folding external keyboard.=C2=A0 Email= <br> simply waited till I was in a convenient place to handle it with big<br> screen and keyboard.=C2=A0 I can do email fairly well on the tablet with a<= br> USB keyboard, but generally don't.<br> <br> The only issue with the PDA is sharing data, as there isn't really a<br= > good way to sync what's on the PDA with what's in the cloud.=C2=A0 = This has<br> not been a deal breaker.=C2=A0 The critical stuff (mostly the contacts) now= <br> largely exists on PDA, tablet, and cloud, and if the PDA broke<br> tomorrow it would not be a calamity, as everything I do on it is<br> doable elsewhere.<br clear=3D"all"></blockquote></div><br>-- <br><div class= =3D"gmail_signature">E&OE GMail crawls every so often on my internet co= nnection :(</div> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style=3D"color: #fff; 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