Re: PDesk plugin

Hi Rick,

2 topics: loading plugins and importing text.

1) Loading plugins:
I have added more plugins to see if they would load or not. They seem 
to load well, I can see them in the "export" menu but none in 
the "import" menu. I am copying the text of the PDesk.log file (I 
cannot see how to attach a document to this mail), it says:
"Error importing plugin CSVInOut
Got Module use of python22.dll conflicts with this version of Python."

2) importing text:
Since there seems to be no posibility to import a format other 
than 'text', is there a documentation on the format for the text file 
to be read and re-entered back into PDesk with the data in the right 
fields? I noticed that a project exported as 'text' is not retreived 
properly by PDesk, all the data for a task (name, priority, progress, 
note,...) is packed into the task name.

thanks for your help

------------------ text of PDesk.log --------------------------
New Session started on Fri Aug 25 20:59:09 2006
platform  : win32
byteorder : little
----------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
PluginManager started
Start in C:\Program Files\PDesk
Now in C:\Program Files\PDesk\plugins
got plugs : 
['CSVInOut.py', 'DocBookXMLInOut.py', 'HTMLInOut.py', 'MSProjectInOut.
py', 'Report_HTMLInOut.py', 'TextInOut.py']
Error importing plugin CSVInOut
Got Module use of python22.dll conflicts with this version of Python.
imported <module 'DocBookXMLInOut' from 'C:\Program 
Files\PDesk\plugins\DocBookXMLInOut.pyo'> successfully
imported <module 'HTMLInOut' from 'C:\Program 
Files\PDesk\plugins\HTMLInOut.pyo'> successfully
imported <module 'MSProjectInOut' from 'C:\Program 
Files\PDesk\plugins\MSProjectInOut.pyo'> successfully
imported <module 'Report_HTMLInOut' from 'C:\Program 
Files\PDesk\plugins\Report_HTMLInOut.pyo'> successfully
imported <module 'TextInOut' from 'C:\Program 
Files\PDesk\plugins\TextInOut.pyo'> successfully
loaded plugins : [<class 'DocBookXMLInOut.DocBookXMLInOut'>, 
<class 'HTMLInOut.HTMLInOut'>, 
<class 'MSProjectInOut.MSProjectInOut'>, 
<class 'Report_HTMLInOut.Report_HTMLInOut'>, 
<class 'TextInOut.TextInOut'>]
Trying <class 'DocBookXMLInOut.DocBookXMLInOut'>
Trying <class 'HTMLInOut.HTMLInOut'>
Trying <class 'MSProjectInOut.MSProjectInOut'>
Trying <class 'Report_HTMLInOut.Report_HTMLInOut'>
Trying <class 'TextInOut.TextInOut'>
returning output plugins : 
[<class 'DocBookXMLInOut.DocBookXMLInOut'>, 
<class 'HTMLInOut.HTMLInOut'>, 
<class 'MSProjectInOut.MSProjectInOut'>, 
<class 'Report_HTMLInOut.Report_HTMLInOut'>, 
<class 'TextInOut.TextInOut'>]
returning input plugins : [<class 'TextInOut.TextInOut'>]
Listening on 127.0.0.1:9999
Waiting for a request...
Going to users Chris directory : C:\pilot\Chris






--- In [email protected], Rick Price <rprice@...> wrote:
>
> The ultimate solution to your problem is really going to be the XML 
> conduit.
> 
> However, the XML conduit will not involve PDesk, it will go 
directly from 
> XML to your Palm device when you hotsync. The point of the XML 
conduit 
> being to replace the existing conduit and PDesk making your 
favourite 
> editor compatible with Progect.
> 
> Of course, the hotsync part is not written yet.
> 
> The part that is written will go from XML to a Progect PDB file 
which 
> PDesk can read (A PDK file is really a PDB file with a different 
name). 
> You can also load the PDB file directly into your Palm device.
> 
> Currently the conversion is one way, it does not merge the data.
> 
> Finally, there is a small bug in the code (Python PalmDB) that 
ruins the 
> PDB file, that should not be that hard to fix, it was working 
shortly 
> before I broke it.
> 
> 
> So, the biggest issue you should have, is getting Teamplay XML 
supported 
> by the Python PalmDB project. (We will assume that Teamplay can 
read/write 
> XML).
> 
> 
> To support the Teamplay XML in Python PalmDB, a XSLT script has to 
be 
> written to go from the canonical Progect XML to the Teamplay XML, 
and then 
> another XSLT script has to be written to go from Teamplay XML to 
Progect 
> XML.
> 
> That may be difficult, but should not be insurmountable.
> 
> If you were able to write that XSLT, you would be in good shape, 
otherwise 
> you will have to wait until I have time to write it.
> 
> 
> 
> As to why the PDesk plugins do not work, they are probably old and 
out of 
> date. If they do not show up in the list however, there may be a 
problem 
> loading them. If that is the case, the problem should be shown in a 
log 
> file.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, "mec1353" wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi Rick,
> >
> > first of all, thanks for answering my call.
> >
> > The main project management tool we have is Teamplay from 
Primavera. It
> > is big, but also has several output formats. I am almost certain 
it
> > supports XML and will double check tomorrow.
> >
> > If it has XML support and you plan to have such a conduit, this 
may
> > really be the solution for me, thanks.
> >
> > I would also like to understand why my PDesk does not recognize 
CSV
> > plugins as described in the csv doc becuase if the XML plugin 
does not
> > showup either in the menu, this won't help.
> >
> > If you have time for a little bit of history, I will tell you 
that I
> > have experimented several things around the import/export 
commands and
> > the ".pdk" files of PDesk.
> >
> > Before calling for help,  I simply tried the "export as text" and 
back
> > with the "import as text" to discover this was not reversible. I 
tried
> > different text formats with no success. So, I wonder what sort 
of 'text'
> > format does PDesk accept to load into a good looking project with 
tasks,
> > priorities, notes, dates, progress,..... any information?
> >
> > Then I discovered that the HTML export does not epxort all the
> > information (no date, no note) and there is no slector like there 
is for
> > the text export. So, HTML was not an option for me.
> >
> > When I looked at the 'MS project MPX' export, I got a good view 
of the
> > data. However, I realized that the only import capability 
is 'text' and
> > since I do not know what text format works, I had to give up.
> >
> > My last attempt was to try to install the CSV plugins, in the 
hope that
> > I could export 'csv' format to excel and work there or better, use
> > Teamplay to export 'csv' and read it directly into PDesk.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I was not able to get PDesk recognize the plugins 
and I
> > still only have 'text' export.
> >
> > That's when I decided to post a mail...
> >
> > thanks in advance for any information.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Rick Price <rprice@> wrote:
> >>
> >> What programs are you trying to interface with Progect?
> >>
> >> I am working on a XML<->Progect conduit.
> >>
> >> If your programs could work with XML, then there is a good chance
> > that,
> >> that would help you.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, "mec1353" wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I am new to the group, I have decided to join because I 
discovered
> >>> Progect and PDesk, installed on my Z22 and was impressed with 
the
> >>> pair.
> >>> I find it easier to update the information on PDesk and hotsync 
to
> >>> the palm. The problem I have is that the information I need to
> > update
> >>> comes from project management tools used in my company and I 
have
> >>> been looking for ways to create status update files that I could
> >>> directly import in PDesk, then hotsync.
> >>> I tried the 'text' format but this did not work (actually, I
> >>> discovered that PDesk cannot 'txt' import projects exported in 
text
> >>> format!)
> >>> I joined the group, then, to look for other plugins and found 
the
> > CSV
> >>> plugin which I think would be compatible with the applications 
used
> >>> in the company.
> >>> I downloaded the zip file and followed the intructions, copied 
both
> >>> files into the plugin folder... no CSV option appeared in PDesk.
> >>> I thought that this would work only with the latest released of
> >>> PDesk. So, I got the 0.8.5 version, uninstalled my 0.8.4 and re-
> >>> installed the new one. Recopied the two CSV files, and re-
started my
> >>> computer.
> >>> Opening PDesk and creating a small project, I still do not see 
any
> >>> CSV option in export or import.
> >>>
> >>> I am now out of ideas to try to make Progect-PDesk as better 
tool
> > for
> >>> my work. Can anyone tell me what I missed, what I did wrong?
> >>>
> >>> thanks in advance,
> >>> Luke
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>








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