Re: Re: PDesk plugin

Yes, please do, it will take me a little while to look at them, but they 
sound useful.

Rick


On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, "Jeff Mikels" wrote:

> I have a couple plugins I wrote myself to import from structured text files.
> OPML and CSV if I recall. If you don't mind potentially broken code, I could
> send them to you.
>
> On 8/25/06, mec1353 <mec1353-/[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> 2 topics: loading plugins and importing text.
>>
>> 1) Loading plugins:
>> I have added more plugins to see if they would load or not. They seem
>> to load well, I can see them in the "export" menu but none in
>> the "import" menu. I am copying the text of the PDesk.log file (I
>> cannot see how to attach a document to this mail), it says:
>> "Error importing plugin CSVInOut
>> Got Module use of python22.dll conflicts with this version of Python."
>>
>> 2) importing text:
>> Since there seems to be no posibility to import a format other
>> than 'text', is there a documentation on the format for the text file
>> to be read and re-entered back into PDesk with the data in the right
>> fields? I noticed that a project exported as 'text' is not retreived
>> properly by PDesk, all the data for a task (name, priority, progress,
>> note,...) is packed into the task name.
>>
>> thanks for your help
>>
>> ------------------ text of PDesk.log --------------------------
>> New Session started on Fri Aug 25 20:59:09 2006
>> platform  : win32
>> byteorder : little
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --------
>> PluginManager started
>> Start in C:\Program Files\PDesk
>> Now in C:\Program Files\PDesk\plugins
>> got plugs :
>> ['CSVInOut.py', 'DocBookXMLInOut.py', 'HTMLInOut.py', 'MSProjectInOut.
>> py', 'Report_HTMLInOut.py', 'TextInOut.py']
>> Error importing plugin CSVInOut
>> Got Module use of python22.dll conflicts with this version of Python.
>> imported <module 'DocBookXMLInOut' from 'C:\Program
>> Files\PDesk\plugins\DocBookXMLInOut.pyo'> successfully
>> imported <module 'HTMLInOut' from 'C:\Program
>> Files\PDesk\plugins\HTMLInOut.pyo'> successfully
>> imported <module 'MSProjectInOut' from 'C:\Program
>> Files\PDesk\plugins\MSProjectInOut.pyo'> successfully
>> imported <module 'Report_HTMLInOut' from 'C:\Program
>> Files\PDesk\plugins\Report_HTMLInOut.pyo'> successfully
>> imported <module 'TextInOut' from 'C:\Program
>> Files\PDesk\plugins\TextInOut.pyo'> successfully
>> loaded plugins : [<class 'DocBookXMLInOut.DocBookXMLInOut'>,
>> <class 'HTMLInOut.HTMLInOut'>,
>> <class 'MSProjectInOut.MSProjectInOut'>,
>> <class 'Report_HTMLInOut.Report_HTMLInOut'>,
>> <class 'TextInOut.TextInOut'>]
>> Trying <class 'DocBookXMLInOut.DocBookXMLInOut'>
>> Trying <class 'HTMLInOut.HTMLInOut'>
>> Trying <class 'MSProjectInOut.MSProjectInOut'>
>> Trying <class 'Report_HTMLInOut.Report_HTMLInOut'>
>> Trying <class 'TextInOut.TextInOut'>
>> returning output plugins :
>> [<class 'DocBookXMLInOut.DocBookXMLInOut'>,
>> <class 'HTMLInOut.HTMLInOut'>,
>> <class 'MSProjectInOut.MSProjectInOut'>,
>> <class 'Report_HTMLInOut.Report_HTMLInOut'>,
>> <class 'TextInOut.TextInOut'>]
>> returning input plugins : [<class 'TextInOut.TextInOut'>]
>> Listening on 127.0.0.1:9999
>> Waiting for a request...
>> Going to users Chris directory : C:\pilot\Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In [email protected], Rick Price <rprice@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> The ultimate solution to your problem is really going to be the XML
>>> conduit.
>>>
>>> However, the XML conduit will not involve PDesk, it will go
>> directly from
>>> XML to your Palm device when you hotsync. The point of the XML
>> conduit
>>> being to replace the existing conduit and PDesk making your
>> favourite
>>> editor compatible with Progect.
>>>
>>> Of course, the hotsync part is not written yet.
>>>
>>> The part that is written will go from XML to a Progect PDB file
>> which
>>> PDesk can read (A PDK file is really a PDB file with a different
>> name).
>>> You can also load the PDB file directly into your Palm device.
>>>
>>> Currently the conversion is one way, it does not merge the data.
>>>
>>> Finally, there is a small bug in the code (Python PalmDB) that
>> ruins the
>>> PDB file, that should not be that hard to fix, it was working
>> shortly
>>> before I broke it.
>>>
>>>
>>> So, the biggest issue you should have, is getting Teamplay XML
>> supported
>>> by the Python PalmDB project. (We will assume that Teamplay can
>> read/write
>>> XML).
>>>
>>>
>>> To support the Teamplay XML in Python PalmDB, a XSLT script has to
>> be
>>> written to go from the canonical Progect XML to the Teamplay XML,
>> and then
>>> another XSLT script has to be written to go from Teamplay XML to
>> Progect
>>> XML.
>>>
>>> That may be difficult, but should not be insurmountable.
>>>
>>> If you were able to write that XSLT, you would be in good shape,
>> otherwise
>>> you will have to wait until I have time to write it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As to why the PDesk plugins do not work, they are probably old and
>> out of
>>> date. If they do not show up in the list however, there may be a
>> problem
>>> loading them. If that is the case, the problem should be shown in a
>> log
>>> file.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, "mec1353" wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Rick,
>>>>
>>>> first of all, thanks for answering my call.
>>>>
>>>> The main project management tool we have is Teamplay from
>> Primavera. It
>>>> is big, but also has several output formats. I am almost certain
>> it
>>>> supports XML and will double check tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> If it has XML support and you plan to have such a conduit, this
>> may
>>>> really be the solution for me, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> I would also like to understand why my PDesk does not recognize
>> CSV
>>>> plugins as described in the csv doc becuase if the XML plugin
>> does not
>>>> showup either in the menu, this won't help.
>>>>
>>>> If you have time for a little bit of history, I will tell you
>> that I
>>>> have experimented several things around the import/export
>> commands and
>>>> the ".pdk" files of PDesk.
>>>>
>>>> Before calling for help,  I simply tried the "export as text" and
>> back
>>>> with the "import as text" to discover this was not reversible. I
>> tried
>>>> different text formats with no success. So, I wonder what sort
>> of 'text'
>>>> format does PDesk accept to load into a good looking project with
>> tasks,
>>>> priorities, notes, dates, progress,..... any information?
>>>>
>>>> Then I discovered that the HTML export does not epxort all the
>>>> information (no date, no note) and there is no slector like there
>> is for
>>>> the text export. So, HTML was not an option for me.
>>>>
>>>> When I looked at the 'MS project MPX' export, I got a good view
>> of the
>>>> data. However, I realized that the only import capability
>> is 'text' and
>>>> since I do not know what text format works, I had to give up.
>>>>
>>>> My last attempt was to try to install the CSV plugins, in the
>> hope that
>>>> I could export 'csv' format to excel and work there or better, use
>>>> Teamplay to export 'csv' and read it directly into PDesk.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, I was not able to get PDesk recognize the plugins
>> and I
>>>> still only have 'text' export.
>>>>
>>>> That's when I decided to post a mail...
>>>>
>>>> thanks in advance for any information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In [email protected], Rick Price <rprice@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What programs are you trying to interface with Progect?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am working on a XML<->Progect conduit.
>>>>>
>>>>> If your programs could work with XML, then there is a good chance
>>>> that,
>>>>> that would help you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, "mec1353" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I am new to the group, I have decided to join because I
>> discovered
>>>>>> Progect and PDesk, installed on my Z22 and was impressed with
>> the
>>>>>> pair.
>>>>>> I find it easier to update the information on PDesk and hotsync
>> to
>>>>>> the palm. The problem I have is that the information I need to
>>>> update
>>>>>> comes from project management tools used in my company and I
>> have
>>>>>> been looking for ways to create status update files that I could
>>>>>> directly import in PDesk, then hotsync.
>>>>>> I tried the 'text' format but this did not work (actually, I
>>>>>> discovered that PDesk cannot 'txt' import projects exported in
>> text
>>>>>> format!)
>>>>>> I joined the group, then, to look for other plugins and found
>> the
>>>> CSV
>>>>>> plugin which I think would be compatible with the applications
>> used
>>>>>> in the company.
>>>>>> I downloaded the zip file and followed the intructions, copied
>> both
>>>>>> files into the plugin folder... no CSV option appeared in PDesk.
>>>>>> I thought that this would work only with the latest released of
>>>>>> PDesk. So, I got the 0.8.5 version, uninstalled my 0.8.4 and re-
>>>>>> installed the new one. Recopied the two CSV files, and re-
>> started my
>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>> Opening PDesk and creating a small project, I still do not see
>> any
>>>>>> CSV option in export or import.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am now out of ideas to try to make Progect-PDesk as better
>> tool
>>>> for
>>>>>> my work. Can anyone tell me what I missed, what I did wrong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks in advance,
>>>>>> Luke
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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