Re: Re: Need help understanding desktop/handheld relationship

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Mark Einersen wrote:

# BTW, the new Palm does look yummy, doesn't it? :)

	Its great to see some positivity .. all these years where Palm 
didn't really move much made us devs take a real beating, and why most 
jumped ship. Suddenly, everyone is beaming about possibilities.

	The Pre looks fantastic; the OS looks really sharp. We'll see if 
they come and bring a strong app store design and good developer tools.. 
they need that. So far, devs have no more info than everyone else.

	I'm really looking forward to it. Call me a Palm guy, but I'm 
rooting for them!

		jeff

# 
# Thanks so much!
# Mark
# 
# --- In [email protected], Jeff Mitchell <skeezix@...> wrote:
# >
# > On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Mark Einersen wrote:
# > 
# > # I think I know the correct dir from #2 below: "Refreshing outline
# > # directory" (DUH!). Still wondering how/if I can change it, as well as
# > # the answers to the others questions.
# > 
# > 	In a rush right now, but .. If I recall right (remember, I've got 
# > not much sleep the last 2 years ;), the latest File -> Open should
# be used 
# > for the index, but I could be wrong there.
# > 
# > 	(Also watch.. www.palminfocenter.com and www.engadget.com and 
# > others are live blogging the new Palm OS device and OS ... *yummy*)
# > 
# > 		jeff
# > 
# > # 
# > # Thx!
# > # Mark
# > # 
# > # --- In [email protected], "Mark Einersen" <me.me@> wrote:
# > # >
# > # > Thanks for your reply, Jeff. Just to make sure I understand
# correctly...
# > # > 
# > # > 1. I could keep all my outlines on a memory card on the HH side.
# Then
# > # > when I want to edit them I could simply insert the card into my
# PC and
# > # > "Open raw..." directly from the card? I guess the only
# disadvantage of
# > # > this scenario is that I would NOT be able to categorize the outlines
# > # > on the HH, correct?
# > # > 
# > # > 2. When I look at the info in the Expert console, where should the
# > # > index be looking? Can I change this path or is it automatically
# set? I
# > # > see the following path descriptions:
# > # > 
# > # > -Registration file path
# > # > -Filter file path
# > # > -Tag file path
# > # > -Refreshing outline directory
# > # > 
# > # > 3. Should the path that the index is looking for be the location
# where
# > # > I store the corresponding files I have on my HH? If so, how do I
# make
# > # > that the default location where they are stored upon sync (or at
# least
# > # > how do I get the HH files to sync to the corresponding files in
# the DT
# > # > directory)?
# > # > 
# > # > 4. Theoretically, I should "Open..." the same directly that the
# index
# > # > is looking for, right (at least on a "normal" basis)?
# > # > 
# > # > Thanks again!  This is very helpful.
# > # > Mark
# > # > 
# > # > --- In [email protected], Jeff Mitchell <skeezix@>
# wrote:
# > # > >
# > # > > On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Mark Einersen wrote:
# > # > > 
# > # > > # 1. Am I correct that files on my memory card have NO ASSOCIATION
# > # > > # whatsoever with what is backed up on and/or synced with the
# desktop?
# > # > > 
# > # > > 	More-or-less correct; there was a time when I had planned to
# have 
# > # > > the desktop do some really tricky things so you could edit files
# > # on the 
# > # > > card after hotsync, but in the end.. devices started to get a
# lot of
# > # > RAM, 
# > # > > Palm made the tricky stuff really buggy to pull off, and I added
# > # > Open Raw 
# > # > > which would let you edit the card-side files directly (via a USB
# > # flash 
# > # > > reader say, or mounting the files via the Palm evice as a card
# > # reader, 
# > # > > etc.)
# > # > > 
# > # > > 	So to sync it is easiest to keep files in RAM.
# > # > > 
# > # > > # 3. On the DT my visual list of outlines shows 8 outlines,
# > # including a
# > # > > # new one I created a couple weeks ago that appears to have been
# > # synced
# > # > > # properly onto my HH. Yet when I choose "Open..." I see a
# list of 10
# > # > > # outlines (8 are the same as what I see on the DT UI, plus
# two others
# > # > > # that I have previously used). Why?
# > # > > 
# > # > > 	Could check the Exprt -> Console option and read through (its 
# > # > > cryptic) to see where it is looking.. essentially, the left-side
# > # index 
# > # > > shows from one directory the files it could find; the Open
# could be 
# > # > > looking in another place (it tries to remember the last palced
# you've 
# > # > > opened a file, and you could have opened somewhere else).
# > # > > 
# > # > > 	The DT can open files anyplace on your computer, the trick is
# what 
# > # > > it is showing in the index and File -> Open.
# > # > > 
# > # > > # 4. I have also created a "test" outline on the HH and upon sync
# > # it is
# > # > > # not visible in EITHER of the aforementioned list of files.
# However, 
# > # > > # when I click on the last outline listed on the DT UI, it
# opens the
# > # > > # "test" list--although it is an old outline with a totally
# different
# > # > > # name!! What the heck?
# > # > > 
# > # > > 	Simialr to (3). Theres probably a mixup of where it is seeing. 
# > # > > (Which could also be complicated by some of Vista's odd
# > # behaviours, if 
# > # > > you're using that OS.)
# > # > > 
# > # > > # 5. When on choose "Open raw..." all I see are 3 files, all
# three of
# > # > > # which are presently in internal memory on the HH (other
# files with
# > # > > # corresponding names on the DT are presently on my HH memory
# card).
# > # > > # When/why would I want to open/modify on the DT a "raw" file
# > # (PDB) vs.
# > # > > # a "normal" file (XML)?
# > # > > 
# > # > > 	Open Raw is provided for those who need it, but it is generally 
# > # > > not needed much for Windows users. (It is mostly used by Mac and
# > # Linux 
# > # > > users, or Windows folks who need to recover based on a pdb file,
# > # or who 
# > # > > want to edit on an SD card, or other crazy tricks :) Generally the
# > # XML 
# > # > > file is the way to go, but as always.. I like to provide tools so
# > # > people 
# > # > > can work how they see fit.
# > # > > 
# > # > > 		jeff
# > # > > 
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