Re: another plea! ShadowPlan for iOS? Seed-Money?

Jeff,
   I've said it before and I'll say it again...nothing out there really competes with Shadow.  Even after all these years.  So, yes, I too would pay $50 to get Shadow development back under way and on a newer device (Android would be my preference).  

Anyone else out there want to chime in and see if we can't give Jeff a little energy/motivation to go along with the spit and vinegar?

Eric

--- In [email protected], Neil Slater <gosfreikempe@...> wrote:
>
> Jeff:
> 
> I completely understand your argument about the exclusive nature of Apple's
> App Store. Even though there doesn't appear to be anything out there that
> can compete with Shadow's capabilities, Apple could let you do all the
> work, then kick you out of the store because one of the bigger companies
> decides you're too good to compete against (same way WalMart pushes out the
> competition).
> 
> BUT... how many Palm developers copied your ideas from Shadow on that
> platform? How many copies did you sell for Palm, and how many are still
> using it - or would if the platform were still viable? Could those users be
> tempted to pick up an iPad version? Would you be able to advertise to
> attract those prior customers?
> 
> I can't really afford a tablet of any kind at the moment, no matter how
> great they are; but if Shadow Plan were available, I'd be searching VERY
> hard for a way to move to the tablet that you chose to support.
> 
> So, yes, I WOULD spend the $50 to get you to port Shadow to iPad (my
> preferred tablet o' the future).
> 
> Neil Slater
> *thinking fond thoughts of my slide rule and abacus...*
> 
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:08 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > **
> > Still a crazy world out there; outliners / to-do-lists /
> > project-managers exist aplenty, from websites to apps; most apps are
> > pretty lightweight these days (which is what most people need, but
> > obviosuly theres the power niche who wants more!) .. heck, most of these
> > apps don't do hierarchy, and no apps synchronize in many locations .. it
> > always makes me giggle how iTunes is so painful about sync options .. or
> > 'cloud sync' which usually still means single sync target, but at least
> > yit works anywhere; in a lot of ways, Palm and Pocket PC apps were far
> > ahead of capabilities in many apps compared to these days.. just not as
> > pretty or as connected :)
> >
> > Anyway, the trick now for such a thing is.. competing with Bascamp
> > and the 10,000 pretty good websites that do this stuff, as well as the
> > existing apps. There are a lot of good sold web based applications, and
> > some of those have decent on-device applications.
> >
> > Pretty tough nut to crack, but really.. for me, to fight all those
> > big guys, it would be sort of like Shadow was at the beginning.. carving a
> > specific niche and trying to grow it, without getting on the radar of the
> > big guys. But in the world dominated by walled garden stores like iTunes
> > and Android Marketplace, your visibility is dictated by downloads .. the
> > top stay the top, and the new or niche guy has an almost impossible time
> > being noticed, by store design. (They dont' want a big ecology.. the
> > stores want a set of very successful few apps, in any given category.)
> >
> > Anyway, the question then is .. what could an app I build (call it
> > Shadow for sake of argument) offer that the other guys do not, and that
> > they couldnmt' then just bolt on? Its like.. if you build a better
> > mousetrap, the old mousttrap companies will modify their design after
> > you've done all the hard work. The trick is coming up with somethign that
> > can't be duplicated.. like hard work ;)
> >
> > So what would need to be in a new applicaiton, that the other guys
> > doint' already do? Or, just taking it seriuously? Doing proper hierarchy
> > with dependancies between items and lots of dates and custom displays and
> > all that? Thats pretty much the opposite of what iOS and Android
> > applications are .. so hard to say if that would sell. Those markets
> > thrive on $1 apps that donmt' have much work in them .. doing something
> > serious takes a lot more time and you need to charge for it..
> >
> > .. but can you sell an app for $7 or $10 or $15 there? Pretty
> > hard. If you sell it for $1, wil you get enough sell through to make up in
> > volume what you dont' get per unit?
> >
> > Yeah, had all these same questions before, but I was younger and
> > more foolish then, full of spit and vinegar ;) Now I'm still full of spit
> > and vinegar, but not as much energy :)
> >
> > If theres a market there, I could be tempted back in :)
> >
> > jeff
> >
> > On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, swac2002 wrote:
> >
> > # Hi Jeff,
> > #
> > # I am almost willing to pay the outrageous $50 to StyleTap just so I can
> > use ShadowPlan!
> > #
> > # But! I'd rather pay you $50.00 if that would lead, even some time down
> > the line, to a version for the iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad.
> > #
> > # Of all the folks on the yahoo group who have asked about this, I wonder
> > how many would be willing to each give you, say $25.00 seed money upfront,
> > to help fund the project.
> > #
> > # I like my Palm T3 for ShadowPlan but I never have it with me because,
> > well, it's a second thing to carry around, and I obviously can't coordinate
> > what I'm doing across devices.
> > #
> > # I'd jump in a second to an iOS version so all I'd need to carry around
> > is my iPod Touch (or iPad 3 if I decide to buy one).
> > #
> > # Finally, when I recently checked the StyleTap website they were touting
> > some sort of Palm Software development kit that would "easily" allow Palm
> > programs to be ported to iOS. Is this something that you could use? And
> > even if so, would they be wanting an arm and a leg to sell you that kit?
> > #
> > # Thanks so much for one of the best programs ever, and for your time
> > right now,
> > #
> > # Sincerely,
> > #
> > # Chris
> > #
> > --
> > If everyone would put barbecue sauce on their food, there would be no war.
> >
> >
> >
> 
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