Re: another plea! ShadowPlan for iOS? Seed-Money?
"dngrsone" <[email protected]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:32:45 -0000
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--E4ojQQJIw2dOqHQjPQ3xVdYIScbBsIfknp5Fmqv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hear you-- you programming is an art form. Our problem is, you made a product that has absolutely no peer, and old and= creaky as it is, it's still used by a bunch of people ten years after it s= hould have fallen to the wayside. I am finally transitioning away from my trusty old T|X... I have a shiny ne= w Galaxy S II but I need an outliner. Why not start simple-- the basic SP linked into the device local calendar. = Everything else is gravy. --- In [email protected], skeezix <skeezix@...> wrote: > > >=20 > That would imply a level of commitment I can't be 100% behind --=20 > you remember my biggets fault of course, is trying to be honest and=20 > upfront always ;) ie: If I put up a KS for $50k or whatever, and then got= =20 > it, I sure as hell have to go and do it ;) >=20 > I'd rather tool around, get a tech-demo together to prove some of=20 > the tech and see if people like the feal at all, and then go from there.= =20 > Its mostly a matter of seeing if where I'd like to go is what people want= ,=20 > and if its possible.=20 >=20 > Scoping worries me a lot -- theres so many lofty goals these days,=20 > but which are the true path that I would need .. what sort of web=20 > frontend? what sort of app on the mobiles, and what sort of app=20 > integration? >=20 > ie: Most apps in iOS and 'droid app stores are standalone ..=20 > islands unto themselves, nice and easy; but the calendar apps and such,=20 > are really only useful if they tie into iOS (say) native DB, with sync up= =20 > to iCloud. We've been that road before back 10 years ago of course... but= =20 > its worse now -- do you also sync with google calendar? or any old ical=20 > davical type calendar? or to yahoo calendar? or no one? (and thats just=20 > calendar .. if we're doing Shadow linking like we did in the 'classic=20 > app', then we're ting into evferything ;) >=20 > So rethinking from the ground up, need to find out what people=20 > need (whats the niche?), need to define what the application is within=20 > those needs, and how best to serve. >=20 > For my part, my needs are simple .. I like simple fast=20 > hierarchical task lists, and I like to be able to sync some of those item= s=20 > into my calendar.. >=20 > .. and babies are up, time to run/rum ;) >=20 > -- > If everyone would put barbecue sauce on their food, there would be no war= . > --E4ojQQJIw2dOqHQjPQ3xVdYIScbBsIfknp5Fmqv Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>I hear you-- you programming is an art form.<br> <br> Our problem is, you made a product that has absolutely no peer, and old and creaky as it is, it's still used by a bunch of people ten years after it should have fallen to the wayside.<br> <br> I am finally transitioning away from my trusty old T|X... I have a shiny new Galaxy S II but I need an outliner.<br> <br> Why not start simple-- the basic SP linked into the device local calendar. Everything else is gravy.<br> <br> --- In <a href="mailto:shadow-discuss%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a>, skeezix <skeezix@...> wrote:<br> ><br> ><br> > <br> > That would imply a level of commitment I can't be 100% behind -- <br> > you remember my biggets fault of course, is trying to be honest and <br> > upfront always ;) ie: If I put up a KS for $50k or whatever, and then got <br> > it, I sure as hell have to go and do it ;)<br> > <br> > I'd rather tool around, get a tech-demo together to prove some of <br> > the tech and see if people like the feal at all, and then go from there. <br> > Its mostly a matter of seeing if where I'd like to go is what people want, <br> > and if its possible. <br> > <br> > Scoping worries me a lot -- theres so many lofty goals these days, <br> > but which are the true path that I would need .. what sort of web <br> > frontend? what sort of app on the mobiles, and what sort of app <br> > integration?<br> > <br> > ie: Most apps in iOS and 'droid app stores are standalone .. <br> > islands unto themselves, nice and easy; but the calendar apps and such, <br> > are really only useful if they tie into iOS (say) native DB, with sync up <br> > to iCloud. We've been that road before back 10 years ago of course... but <br> > its worse now -- do you also sync with google calendar? or any old ical <br> > davical type calendar? or to yahoo calendar? or no one? (and thats just <br> > calendar .. if we're doing Shadow linking like we did in the 'classic <br> > app', then we're ting into evferything ;)<br> > <br> > So rethinking from the ground up, need to find out what people <br> > need (whats the niche?), need to define what the application is within <br> > those needs, and how best to serve.<br> > <br> > For my part, my needs are simple .. I like simple fast <br> > hierarchical task lists, and I like to be able to sync some of those items <br> > into my calendar..<br> > <br> > .. and babies are up, time to run/rum ;)<br> > <br> > --<br> > If everyone would put barbecue sauce on their food, there would be no war.<br> ><br> <br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div id="ygrp-actbar" style="clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; white-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20another%20plea%21%20ShadowPlan%20for%20iOS%3F%20Seed-Money%3F" style="margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20another%20plea%21%20ShadowPlan%20for%20iOS%3F%20Seed-Money%3F"> Reply to <span style="font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxNmpqZWs4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBG1zZ0lkAzI1MzI2BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM0NTY0OTU2OA--?act=reply&messageNum=25326">Reply <span style="font-weight: 700;">via web post</span></a> | <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJldnVwNmRrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM0NTY0OTU2OA--" style="font-weight: 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/message/25259;_ylc=X3oDMTM2NGxlbnBqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBG1zZ0lkAzI1MzI2BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM0NTY0OTU2OAR0cGNJZAMyNTI1OQ--">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style="font-weight: 700;">28</span>) </div> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> <li style="border-right: 1px solid #000; font-weight: 700; display: inline; padding: 0 5px; margin-left: 0;"> <span class="cat"><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmanFlbjkwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEzNDU2NDk1Njg-?o=6" style="text-decoration: none;">New Members</a></span> <span class="ct" style="color: #ff7900;">1</span> </li> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/shadow-discuss;_ylc=X3oDMTJlNWtwOTR0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTM0NTY0OTU2OA--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkY3NiZ2pvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzI2NDQ5MDIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDE2MDYxBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMzQ1NjQ5NTY4" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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