Re: ShadowPlan for Blackberry 10
Wolfram Kuss <[email protected]> Tue, 09 Apr 2013 18:05:43 +0200
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Jeff wrote:
> Conversion of Shadow to anything is pretty easy (at least for me,=20
>given its all my fault ;)
Of course.=20
But I wanted to give a complete list of my requirements for you to see
how difficult it would be to create a version that people can use.=20
Obviously, some other people will have different requirements.
> My fiddling about was leveraging a cross platform toolkit, whereby=20
>the mobile app runs on desktop as well, or at least is mostly compatible..=
=20
Ah, cool.
> Android first, since it has a lower barrier to entry imho, for the=20
>tech I'm leveraging. But the tech I'm working with also works on iOS.
Yes, also I think (without having looked deeply) that on Android there
are less similar programs than on IOS (f.e. CarbonFin).
> Unicode day one, probably simple JSON files and not XML,
Sounds good.
>in iOS and Android, you=20
>do not.. you don't have the ability to just start writing; you need a=20
>keyboard popup.=20
I am not sure this is important, but dont forget people that have a
hardware keyboard, for example a bluetooth one.
> They (and most bigger name apps) spend a lot on artsists/graphics,=20
>workflow swooshyness, websites, and press.=20
Yes. For example, the complete German press wrote about Evernote maybe
two weeks ago because a partnership with "Deutsche Telekom" was
announced. Also, both host a "code for us" event.
> But these app stores are stacked against you; with the popularity=20
>ranking and order of display, they favor the existing top; the design=20
>really tries to make it so for any given genre, you've got about 5-10 apps=
=20
>in the pool, and might as well be no others. Once you're in the top, you=20
>stay in the top.... just because the stores dont' show anyone else.
True to some extent.
OTOH in the Android marketplace there are categories like "new and
rising".
My feeling is the main aim of both Google and Apple is to have as many
Apps and Downloads as possible.=20
My feeling is the main effect of the market structures is that there
is a big pressure on developers to keep the price very low and maybe
even from time to time give it away for free (f.e. on Amazon's "free
app of the day" deal). So, they achieve many downloads, get high in
the rankings which means they will be seen by many new customers.
I think we all agree it is hard to compete in this arena. So I keep
thinking that maybe breaking the mold, going for a high price (15-50 $
) and depending on word of mouth propaganda (and the occasional blog
post) would be the better way to go for such an "old fashioned"
product.
>But I'm more motivated for covering expenses and=20
>trying the waters .. when you go out with guns blazing, _planning_ on=20
>conquering th big names, thats when you have real $$$ problems :O
I dont know how f.e the "top non-free new" app categorie works.
It may be you are only eligbible for it for a certain amount of time
after adding the app to the market? If so, there would be some reason
to only add it after it has been polished to at least some extent.
Bye bye,
Wolfram.
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<p>Jeff wrote:<br>
<br>
> Conversion of Shadow to anything is pretty easy (at least for me, <br>
>given its all my fault ;)<br>
<br>
Of course. <br>
But I wanted to give a complete list of my requirements for you to see<br>
how difficult it would be to create a version that people can use. <br>
Obviously, some other people will have different requirements.<br>
<br>
> My fiddling about was leveraging a cross platform toolkit, whereby <br>
>the mobile app runs on desktop as well, or at least is mostly compatible.. <br>
<br>
Ah, cool.<br>
<br>
> Android first, since it has a lower barrier to entry imho, for the <br>
>tech I'm leveraging. But the tech I'm working with also works on iOS.<br>
<br>
Yes, also I think (without having looked deeply) that on Android there<br>
are less similar programs than on IOS (f.e. CarbonFin).<br>
<br>
> Unicode day one, probably simple JSON files and not XML,<br>
<br>
Sounds good.<br>
<br>
>in iOS and Android, you <br>
>do not.. you don't have the ability to just start writing; you need a <br>
>keyboard popup. <br>
<br>
I am not sure this is important, but dont forget people that have a<br>
hardware keyboard, for example a bluetooth one.<br>
<br>
> They (and most bigger name apps) spend a lot on artsists/graphics, <br>
>workflow swooshyness, websites, and press. <br>
<br>
Yes. For example, the complete German press wrote about Evernote maybe<br>
two weeks ago because a partnership with "Deutsche Telekom" was<br>
announced. Also, both host a "code for us" event.<br>
<br>
> But these app stores are stacked against you; with the popularity <br>
>ranking and order of display, they favor the existing top; the design <br>
>really tries to make it so for any given genre, you've got about 5-10 apps <br>
>in the pool, and might as well be no others. Once you're in the top, you <br>
>stay in the top.... just because the stores dont' show anyone else.<br>
<br>
True to some extent.<br>
OTOH in the Android marketplace there are categories like "new and<br>
rising".<br>
My feeling is the main aim of both Google and Apple is to have as many<br>
Apps and Downloads as possible. <br>
My feeling is the main effect of the market structures is that there<br>
is a big pressure on developers to keep the price very low and maybe<br>
even from time to time give it away for free (f.e. on Amazon's "free<br>
app of the day" deal). So, they achieve many downloads, get high in<br>
the rankings which means they will be seen by many new customers.<br>
<br>
I think we all agree it is hard to compete in this arena. So I keep<br>
thinking that maybe breaking the mold, going for a high price (15-50 $<br>
) and depending on word of mouth propaganda (and the occasional blog<br>
post) would be the better way to go for such an "old fashioned"<br>
product.<br>
<br>
>But I'm more motivated for covering expenses and <br>
>trying the waters .. when you go out with guns blazing, _planning_ on <br>
>conquering th big names, thats when you have real $$$ problems :O<br>
<br>
I dont know how f.e the "top non-free new" app categorie works.<br>
It may be you are only eligbible for it for a certain amount of time<br>
after adding the app to the market? If so, there would be some reason<br>
to only add it after it has been polished to at least some extent.<br>
<br>
Bye bye,<br>
Wolfram.<br>
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