C760/C750 keyboard vs. Sony Clie UX50?

Brent Geske <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.handhelds.zaurus.general
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I'm pretty sure I'll end up with an SL-C760 from conics.net, but...

... I picked up a Sony Clie UX50 from Fry's to check it out.  Given it 
similarities to C760 in both size and form factor (clamshell keyboard, 
swivel display) I though it would make an interesting competitor to 
C760.  I can already tell I'll be returning the UX50 -- chiefly because of 
the poor tactile feedback of the keyboard, and also because of Palm "OS" 
inability to do the most simple multi-tasking.



Has anyone used both a C760/C750 and a UX50 that could comment on / compare 
the keyboards?



The UX50's keyboard has keys centered at approximately the same distance 
apart as my old HP 200LX ("Palmtop PC").  I've always considered the HP 
keyboard to be very useable.  The UX50 keyboard is not very useable and is 
in fact quite difficult to operate.  Given that the QWERTY section of both 
keyboards are almost exactly the same size, I know the small size is not 
the reason.  There is better tactile feedback on the 200LX keyboard then 
there is on the UX50 keyboard:

- Key Edges:  The 200LX key edges are easily felt;  this helps you maneuver 
around in a manner quite similar to touch typing.  The UX50 has keys pretty 
much flush with the keyboard surface and this makes them very difficult to 
feel/find.  (The keyboard itself looks like plowed furrows with the keys 
centered on the higher ridges between the furrows;  the keys are actually a 
bit inset into the ridge and thus appear to be sort of depressions in the 
ridge;  this inset combined with the near flushness makes it very difficult 
to feel the key boundaries.)

- Key Throw Distance:  The 200LX has a pretty respectable key throw 
distance for a keyboard its size;  this makes it easy to feel that you've 
actually pressed a key.  The UX50 throw distance is very short;  you hardly 
know whether you've pressed it or not based on this short distance.

- Key Pressure:  200LX requires a pressure that is more than your desktop 
keyboard, but not that much more;  it remains quite useable.  The UX50 
requires a very hefty amount of pressure;  this slows you down 
considerably.  (I can type two-three times as fast on the 200LX as on the 
UX50;  the 200LX lets me type at something like 75% of my speed on a 
desktop keyboard.)

- Key Click:  The 200LX has great tactile feedback in the form of an easily 
sensed click.  The UX50 clicks a bit, but is much harder to detect.

- Net Effect / Overall Tactile Feedback:  Finally, all of the 200LX 
keyboard attributes I mentioned above combine to give its keyboard very 
good tactile feedback and make it quite useable.  On the contrary, the 
UX50's keyboard has very poor tactile feedback and is quite difficult to 
use.  Women with fingernails find it even less useful.  Any keyboard is 
still better than Grafitti, IMHO, but this UX50 keyboard is pretty poor.



Back to the question -- how does the C760/C750 keyboard fare in real world use?



P.S.:  In other respects, the UX50 is very nice.  Fit and finish is in the 
amazing and expected Sony style.  Screen is clear and bright;  480x320 is a 
nice improvement over most of the current portrait-mode PDAs.  Having a 
keyboard at all is a god-send.  Ability to use in landscape mode with 
clamshell flip-out keyboard is much better than being forced to tap and use 
portrait mode always (although the latter can be useful say when walking 
rather than sitting).  The builtin wireless is very nice because you don't 
have to carry a separate CF card;  It allows the Clie to remain small when 
doing wireless networking because no antenna blob sticks out.
      Problems include all the normal Palm crap (switch out of the browser, 
and the network shuts off because no multi-tasking;  browser only allows 
one window at a time and some popup-dependant web sites simply don't 
work).  The inability to drag/move dialogs or windows sucks;  you're pretty 
much locked into how Palm positions things in the UI.  Having an 
integrated, non-swappable battery is bad -- WiFi sucks the battery down in 
two hours and you have to wait another four to charge it;  the device 
remains unusable during this time unless you tether it to an AC 
outlet;  there is no option to swap in a fresh battery.  ODDLY -- there is 
NO wired networking option for this Clie.  You can dock to a PC via USB 
(and there may be a network bridge there, I didn't check);  if, however, 
you simply want to carry the Clie alone and hook into a wired network, you 
CAN'T.  You can only do WiFi when using the Clie alone.  Yuck!
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