Re: Staggered or not ???

Then isn't the problem the connection of the two halves rather than the
spacing of the keys?

On 3/14/07, Marcus Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>   Yes, you need to try for yourself. I for one have some distance
> between my shoulders, so the staggered layout lines up with my
> forearms and fingers much better than the TypeMatrix-style columns.
> Kinesis might be OK, I haven't tried it.
>
> Marcus
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2007, at 10:25 AM, Chuck Esterbrook wrote:
>
> > I can say that I've used both, and the columnar layout is more
> > comfortable for me. This would really be your ultimate test--try it.
> >
> > I believe both the TypeMatrix and the Kinesis Contour (I've only used
> > the former) require less finger movement than a staggered keyboard.
> >
> > I'm sure the original staggering was due to the levers on mechanical
> > keyboards and never came out of any ergonomics decision. Also, I find
> > the idea that staggering lets you reach multiple letters--implying
> > that columnar does not--to be laughable. I reach multiple letters on a
> > columnar layout, too!
> >
> > -Chuck
> >
> >
> > On 3/14/07, Yatin Sethi <[email protected] <yatin.sethi%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I have always been reading on the staggered and columnar layouts
> >> but haven't
> >> got any better clarity.
> >> There are discussions to support both the viewpoints. Few quotes:
> >>
> >> In favor of Staggered layout:
> >> "The stagger is important in that you can reach multiple letters
> >> with the
> >> same finger. Moving those letters directly under a finger reduces
> >> efficiency."
> >>
> >> If the staggering of keys are supposed to have some benefit to
> >> your finger
> >> movements, why is it then that the whole keyboard is staggered the
> >> same way?
> >> Doesn't it stand to reason that one side should be staggered the
> >> other way?
> >> After all, we don't have two right hands...
> >>
> >> Against Staggered layout:
> >> "Today's keyboards descend in a straight line from yesterday's
> >> mechanical
> >> typewriters. The reason the keys are staggered is because it gives
> >> the
> >> typewriter engineers more space to place their levers. It too was
> >> specifically designed to avoid the collision of the levers."
> >>
> >> "The staggered key arrangement is a bad thing because it forces
> >> your fingers
> >> to do a lot of diagonal reaching. When you strike the key down
> >> your finger
> >> is thus in a particularly vulnerable position and at a mechanical
> >> disadvantage resulting in more strain than is necessary."
> >>
> >> My only confusion that still prevails:
> >> Which one is better: staggered or non-staggered .. and WHY ??
> >>
> >> We do see many new keyboards coming up with non-staggered layouts
> >> (Typematrix 2030) and many other which are still following the
> >> staggered
> >> layout. Any suggestions guys ??
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards'
> >>
> >> Yatin.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Yatin Sethi
> >> www.yatinsethi.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/14/07, Chuck Esterbrook <[email protected]<Chuck.Esterbrook%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Pretty cool stuff, but too bad the Apple keyboards are still
> >>> staggered
> >>> instead of columnar...
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/13/07, nkmcalli <[email protected] <nkmcalli%40yahoo.com><nkmcalli%40yahoo.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> Some follow-up about dvorak laptops. Check out these pix on Flickr.
> >>>> It's step by step photos of a person moving the keys on their Apple
> >>>> MacBook.
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/69631394@N00/tags/keyboard/
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
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