Re: Re: Taking the Dvorak issue into our own hands. No Pun Intended.

I use my mouse with my right hand. If I moused with the left hand, that
would make more sense.
I have to be able to quickly CTRL C then click on a different tab or program
then CTRL V so I often do that with my other hand on the mouse.

If you did the right hand, you wouldn't even have to remap CTRL V - just
probably CTRL W or CTRL \ to CTRL C

Thanks for the compliment btw.

--Keith

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 19:11, nkmcalli <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> I really like your story about how you changed over. I used to be a
> programmer too, and even once had the nickname "the clacker" for how I
> sounded on the keyboard.
>
> Here is my question: I know everyone loves to remap the ctrl-c-v, but what
> about just ctrl-c-v-ing with the right hand? I know it's a stretch, but I've
> been doing it for a while now (not as a programmer though) and I really like
> it.
>
> Nicole
>
>
> --- In [email protected] <altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Keith Ratliff <dracorat@...> wrote:
> >
> > I am a Web Architect by trade, and spend much of my time in SQL and C#
> > programming.
> > However, a few years ago (3 I think) I took a 4 day weekend (was a three
> day
> > already and I took a Friday with it to make it longer) and changed my
> > arrangement at that time to Dvorak. I played video games that weekend,
> but
> > forced myself to play them and type in the new arrangement. I was playing
> an
> > MMO and as I'm a chatty person online still had plenty of opportunity to
> > type to the people there.
> >
> > I think my first sentence went something like "Everyone, I just changed
> my
> > keyboard layout and will be responding very slowly today. I am learning."
> > and that sentence probably took 3 to 4 minutes to type in itself.
> >
> > I allowed myself to look at the keyboard for the first two days and then
> I
> > changed to a printout of the arrangement so that I could look at the
> > printout instead when I needed help with key positions, so that I'd learn
> to
> > touch type better.
> >
> > Then, when I returned to work, I was the subject of much jest and
> elbowing
> > for a couple of months. I would write some very jumbled sentences and
> > replies to AIM messages. It was quite an interesting time indeed.
> >
> > But I stuck with it. And today, I can safely say it's one of the best
> > decisions I have ever made. (Leaving my ex beats it, but that's a tale
> for
> > another time.) And I still program.
> >
> > Some aspects of programming are harder now. Most especially the new
> location
> > of the curly braces are rough even now as they have moved further from
> the
> > fingers and in C# programming, you use curly braces all the time -
> probably
> > about every third line on average.
> >
> > However, most things are easier - especially the location of the
> semicolon
> > which is used on every line! And the period being at the disposal of my
> > index finger. Mmmmmm. Much love.
> >
> > As a programmer, you also copy and paste a lot. Fortunately, you don't
> > really use CTRL + semicolon or CTRL + Q for pretty much anything. At all.
> >
> > Thus, AutoHotKey to the rescue and I have remapped them to copy and
> paste.
> > I'll even share the script for it:
> > #o::#s
> > ^;::^c
> > ^q::^v
> > ^`::^q
> >
> > (Also maps Windows + O to Windows + S which is helpful for OneNote.)
> >
> > So there's my rebuttal against a programmer changing. This programmer
> did.
> > And it was worth it's weight in Adamantium!
> >
> > Before I changed, I went home with sore forearms - sometimes to the point
> I
> > couldn't grip a coffee mug. Now, that never happens, even after a full
> day
> > of typing.
> >
> > What about that printout I mentioned? I created it - as I use a
> TypeMatrix
> > keyboard. And I still have it.
> >
> > You can get it here:
> >
> > http://keithratliff.com/transfer/typematrixdvorak.png
> >
> >
> > --Keith Ratliff
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 07:09, <jim51r@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Watching a programmer friend do his thing in QWERTY like a crazed
> spider
> > > suggests to me there would be no benefit to switching layouts for
> someone
> > > who is already skilled at QWERTY, whatever advantage Dvorak may have
> had
> > > to offer. I have a Chinese friend who types QWERTY and I have a heck of
> > > a time keeping up with her whilst chatting online and she's not even a
> > > native English speaker. I haven't mentioned Dvorak to her, no need.
> > >
> > > I remain a convinced Dvorak typist, and have no intention of ever going
> > > back to Mr. Sholes awkward fantasy, and concur that at the moment the
> > > decision to learn to type is made, a valid option for something better
> > > should be there. Dvorak is one such option, perhaps the best option --
> > > all things considered.
> > >
> > > I still have a CD of Mavis Beacon 5, from back when Mavis was hip,
> rather
> > > than the stodgy QWERTY shill she later became. Mavis taught me Dvorak.
> > > Now I notice, and I say this with some hesitation, but looking at the
> > > Broderbund site today I see that Mavis is looking quite pale. Whatever
> > > led to this odd, complected decision by her maker, this fly on the wall
> > > would surely like to know.
> > >
> > > > I hope the word "mandatory" refers to allowing access to the keyboard
> > > > layout setting for anybody who uses a computer, and perhaps a mandate
> > > > for educators to introduce the Dvorak option to new typists.
> > > > Mandating access removes the most valid objection to teaching Dvorak
> > > > to students: that they might someday be forced to use QWERTY anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Current QWERTY typists should not be forced to switch. The GSA study
> > > > that is commonly cited to denounce Dvorak advised against switching,
> > > > and many people will choose to believe it. Fortunately, even if you
> > > > ignore that study's flaws, it is a real stretch to apply it to new
> > > > typists. Mandating that both layouts are allowed in all work and
> > > > school environments should be enough to encourage voluntary adoption.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestion of forcing current typists to switch will doom the
> > > > effort. There is a cost to retraining. Although the Navy study in
> > > > 1941 showed the cost of retraining could be recouped in ten days
> > > > (after training ended), the Navy had the luxury of assigning subjects
> > > > to non-typing duties during the training period. Indeed, for best
> > > > results it is important to avoid or at least minimize typing work
> > > > outside of actual training sessions, and to not use QWERTY at all
> > > > until the Dvorak pattern is fully learned.
> > > >
> > > > People who make their living at a keyboard might not be able to
> > > > afford even two or three weeks of lost work. If the change were a
> > > > mandate, more switchers would try to rush the process, risking
> > > > failures that in turn would be blamed on the layout, not poor
> training.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck,
> > > > Marcus
> > > >
> > > > On Oct 12, 2009, at 8:56 PM, Gregory G wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I am sick and tired of seeing all of the money that is being wasted
> > > > > by people's ignorance and resistance to change. So, I've finally
> > > > > decided to take matters into my own hands. I've decided to lobby
> > > > > Congress directly to ask President Obama to lead the way on the
> > > > > Dvorak issue. I've created an Internet page concerning how it's
> > > > > going to work and invite you all to take part. If only seven of
> > > > > you decide to read the message and do what it says we can have the
> > > > > Dvorak Keyboard Layout made into a public law in no time. Even if
> > > > > not, by simply alerting your friends of this page everyone on the
> > > > > Internet will be have enough information to make their own informed
> > > > > choice.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please click on the link below for more information.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://dynamicreflections.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=1591481%
> > > > > 3ABlogPost%3A4330
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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