Re: Re:Mavis Beacon Teaches DVORAK Typing
Keith Ratliff <[email protected]> Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:42:03 -0700
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While Dvorak is *an* authoritative source, I don't take everything he said as solid gold. This is one such case. Overall I think he did outstanding work, but I also feel that "drills" are more beneficial than he gave them credit for. My 2 cents. =) --Keith On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 15:20, sobjornstad <[email protected]> wrote: > > > It's interesting, it seems that Dvorak said that practicing nonsense > syllables is a waste of time and that work should begin on real > phrases and sentences as quickly as possible, but I have ever to see a > typing course that follows this principle...not exactly a surprise > given how his other ideas were met, I suppose. (To be more specific, > he states that words (and letters and letter combinations should > always be practiced in their natural context, not in random drills.) > For anyone who has the book handy, _Typewriting Behavior_ talks many > times about this, but it's mainly concentrated on pages 157-163. > > > --- In [email protected] <altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com>, > Keith Ratliff <dracorat@...> wrote: > > > > Most typing software will teach you home row combinations first. Usually > in > > pairs that have no actual sense, other than making sure that muscle > memory > > is intact for the letter in question. After starting on the home row, > they > > move to reaching letters and letters between the index fingers. > > > > Finally, they end with words, then sentences, and finally entire passages > of > > typing. > > > > Since the layout of the keyboards is different, so to are the first > parts. > > The first letters you would learn in QWERTY are asdf and jkl;. In Dvorak, > > they would be aoeu and htns and the lessons will be tailored as such. > > > > --Keith > > > > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 14:48, Paul Martzen <paul_martzen@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Are the basic lessons for Dvorak the same or different than for > > > Qwerty? Seems like Dvorak is easy to learn if you start off learning > > > the most commonly used words available on the home row. That advantage > > > can be lost if learners are forced to use the same odd and arbitrary > > > combinations common in basic Qwerty instruction. > > > > > > I remember being frustrated with Mavis in the early 1990's. Even > > > though I was using the Dvorak option, it felt like the lessons had a > > > Qwerty mentality. The lessons did not utilize the Dvorak advantages. > > > At least it seemed that way to me. > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]