Re: Re:Mavis Beacon Teaches DVORAK Typing

Keith Ratliff <[email protected]> Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:42:03 -0700
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While Dvorak is *an* authoritative source, I don't take everything he said
as solid gold. This is one such case.

Overall I think he did outstanding work, but I also feel that "drills" are
more beneficial than he gave them credit for.

My 2 cents. =)

--Keith

On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 15:20, sobjornstad <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> It's interesting, it seems that Dvorak said that practicing nonsense
> syllables is a waste of time and that work should begin on real
> phrases and sentences as quickly as possible, but I have ever to see a
> typing course that follows this principle...not exactly a surprise
> given how his other ideas were met, I suppose. (To be more specific,
> he states that words (and letters and letter combinations should
> always be practiced in their natural context, not in random drills.)
> For anyone who has the book handy, _Typewriting Behavior_ talks many
> times about this, but it's mainly concentrated on pages 157-163.
>
>
> --- In [email protected] <altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Keith Ratliff <dracorat@...> wrote:
> >
> > Most typing software will teach you home row combinations first. Usually
> in
> > pairs that have no actual sense, other than making sure that muscle
> memory
> > is intact for the letter in question. After starting on the home row,
> they
> > move to reaching letters and letters between the index fingers.
> >
> > Finally, they end with words, then sentences, and finally entire passages
> of
> > typing.
> >
> > Since the layout of the keyboards is different, so to are the first
> parts.
> > The first letters you would learn in QWERTY are asdf and jkl;. In Dvorak,
> > they would be aoeu and htns and the lessons will be tailored as such.
> >
> > --Keith
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 14:48, Paul Martzen <paul_martzen@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Are the basic lessons for Dvorak the same or different than for
> > > Qwerty? Seems like Dvorak is easy to learn if you start off learning
> > > the most commonly used words available on the home row. That advantage
> > > can be lost if learners are forced to use the same odd and arbitrary
> > > combinations common in basic Qwerty instruction.
> > >
> > > I remember being frustrated with Mavis in the early 1990's. Even
> > > though I was using the Dvorak option, it felt like the lessons had a
> > > Qwerty mentality. The lessons did not utilize the Dvorak advantages.
> > > At least it seemed that way to me.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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