Re: Re: Copy of GOrDon's press release to news syndicates

Keith Ratliff <[email protected]> Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:10:06 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.comp.hardware.altkeyboards
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Who's representing your claim?

--Keith

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 09:42, Gregory G <[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
> Began class action lawsuit against Microsoft, Apple and all computer
> manufactureres. The basis of the lawsuit is simply. Microsoft and Apple have
> known about the Dvorak and have included it in all of their software but did
> not dual label their computers.
>
> The only problem is that I am not a member of the class. Therefore I need
> someone who has actually suffered from RSI to file the suit.
>
> Keith, would you be willing to be the lead complaintant?
>
>
> --- In [email protected] <altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Gregory G" <gregory@...> wrote:
> >
> > The reason that the Dvorak keyboard will rule the day in a couple of
> years is that the Qwerty is in reality America's number one health hazard.
> http://tinyurl.com/cure-carpal-tunnel-syndrome
> >
> > But as Keith reported a simple switch to Dvorak can change all of that.
> And if you do it from my Amazon.com affiliate store the labels only cost
> $1.99
> >
> > http://RSI-therapy.com
> >
> > --- In [email protected] <altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "marzolian" <marzolian@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gregory,
> > >
> > > Dvorak has been available on most computers, especially Windows and
> Macintosh, for more than 20 years. Dvorak came up with the idea 75 years
> ago. Exactly when is this "fact" going to rule the day?
> > >
> > > Here's another fact: For someone who just types, a Dvorak keyboard
> would be fabulous. But I don't just type all day. Sometimes I write, and
> there's a difference.
> > >
> > > I can type 70-80 wpm on QWERTY. In theory, that's about 4000 words per
> hour, or 30,000 words a day.
> > >
> > > But when I measure my output in words, it's rarely more than a few
> thousand a day. Why? Because I'm not just typing ... I am reading, thinking,
> copying, pasting, running other programs, playing games, and a dozen other
> things. And that's when I'm not standing, or sitting in someone else's
> office, or walking or driving. Even if I could type twice as fast with a
> Dvorak layout, I would not accomplish twice as much; maybe 5%?
> > >
> > > I used Dvorak for a few months about 15 years ago. Yes, my fingers felt
> comfortable. But then I started working at other people's offices where I
> could not change the layout. It was simply too confusing to switch back and
> forth when I got home. And my speed stayed stuck at about 40-50 wpm.
> > >
> > > And there were other oddities. I'm a big guy and my fingers are long,
> except for the pinkies. But I have to stretch and twist to reach the L,
> which is used much more frequently than P, the letter that occupies that
> position in QWERTY. Also, I use Undo, Cut, Copy, and Paste. In QWERTY, those
> keys are arranged in one logical place, and can be typed with the Ctrl key
> without stretching too much -- not in Dvorak.
> > >
> > > If I were going to switch, I might try Colemak simply because it takes
> those things into account, and is practically as good as Dvorak in other
> ways.
> > >
> > > But Dvorak and Colemak, and all other alternative layouts, don't go far
> enough. If Dvorak were around today, he would probably consider the other
> things that have been added to computer keyboards: Ctrl, Alt, function keys,
> cursor keys. He left the big wide space bar, instead of having the thumbs do
> more work. And he didn't consider a mouse at all.
> > >
> > > I understand the finger-distance argument, but I am about your age, and
> my fingers and hands are still comfortable. They started to hurt some in the
> past few years but I switched to an ergonomic keyboard (latest one is the
> Microsoft Natural Elite, if anyone's interested) and mouse (Wow-Pen Joy).
> They each made a much greater impact on my comfort than Dvorak did. Other
> people have found satisfaction in the other keyboards mentioned in this
> group and elsewhere.
> > >
> > > Another thought: The Dvorak layout saves typing distance. But don't our
> doctors tell us to get more exercise? Using a Dvorak layout, then lifting
> weights with our hands, seems like using an escalator to go to the gym and
> then get on a stair climbing machine. Or like driving to a park then taking
> a walk.
> > >
> > > The Dvorak keyboard is an improvement over QWERTY, but other features
> are even more important for productivity and comfort at a keyboard.
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Steven
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected] <altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Gregory G" <gregory@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > But the fact that still rules the day is the one about how many miles
> hands have to move in a day. 16 to 20 miles for Qwerty versus one mile or
> less for Dvorak. That is a physical fact. I am betting that the difference
> in movement mileage will rule the day and encourage most people to switch.
> > >
> >
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