Re: Dvorak Right-hand, Mac
Marcus Brooks <[email protected]> Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:31:20 -0600
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--EhtaeBebbSr0XYJU9msKdY4ZAckTY4qft4WQJ3x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim, I took the liberty of copying this reply to the alt-keyboards email group. It's not that my time is so valuable, but it may take me a while to find a useful answer, if I can, and maybe somebody on the list can help you offhand. I cannot claim credit for the right-handed layout on my website. It was produced or at least distributed by someone in the now long-inactive Dvorak International organization. I wasn't aware of the differences you encountered, but I've never really used the one-handed layouts on either Mac or PC. I can probably dig up a diagram of Dvorak's original right-hand layout, but that won't really help. In the past, keyboard layouts on the Mac were editable by using a resource editor (ResEdit), commonly available to developers. I'm sure something like that still exists, but I don't know anything about it. I'm afraid I lost touch with the Mac's leading edge quite some time ago, and the trailing edge is slipping away. I'll let you know if I find anything useful, and I'll forward anything that turns up from the group. If you want, you can view the alt-keyboards conversation at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/ Good luck, Marcus -- [email protected] http://area42.mwbrooks.com http://www.facebook.com/mwbrooks42 On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Tim Prior wrote: > Dear Mr. Brooks, > > I am a PC user trying to switch to Mac, and I am an amputee using the Dvorak Right-hand (DRH) keyboard layout. I found your DI Dvorak file with the help of a Mac shop person, and installed it. The trouble I'm having is that the right handed layout seems to be different from the layout I am used to in PC. Namely, the '4' is below the '1', and other differences. I'm really glad that you took the time to produce and publish this file, however I am interested in continuing to use the, as far as I can tell, original DRH layout. > > So, a couple questions (assuming that indeed I am seeing a difference between the layouts): > > Did you move keys around to improve the layout? > > Can I edit the file so that I can have the layout I am used to typing with? (Noting that I would also like to alter the location of the period key and a couple other punctuation keys) > > I would be happy to provide you more information regarding my problem, and I appreciate any time or attention you can provide, as I'm sure your time is valuable. > > Thank you, > > Tim Prior [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --EhtaeBebbSr0XYJU9msKdY4ZAckTY4qft4WQJ3x Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>Tim,<br> I took the liberty of copying this reply to the alt-keyboards email group. It's not that my time is so valuable, but it may take me a while to find a useful answer, if I can, and maybe somebody on the list can help you offhand.<br> <br> I cannot claim credit for the right-handed layout on my website. It was produced or at least distributed by someone in the now long-inactive Dvorak International organization. I wasn't aware of the differences you encountered, but I've never really used the one-handed layouts on either Mac or PC. I can probably dig up a diagram of Dvorak's original right-hand layout, but that won't really help.<br> <br> In the past, keyboard layouts on the Mac were editable by using a resource editor (ResEdit), commonly available to developers. I'm sure something like that still exists, but I don't know anything about it. I'm afraid I lost touch with the Mac's leading edge quite some time ago, and the trailing edge is slipping away.<br> <br> I'll let you know if I find anything useful, and I'll forward anything that turns up from the group. If you want, you can view the alt-keyboards conversation at <br> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/</a><br> <br> Good luck,<br> Marcus<br> --<br> <a href="mailto:marcus%40mwbrooks.com">[email protected]</a><br> <a href="http://area42.mwbrooks.com">http://area42.mwbrooks.com</a><br> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mwbrooks42">http://www.facebook.com/mwbrooks42</a><br> <br> On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Tim Prior wrote:<br> > Dear Mr. Brooks,<br> > <br> > I am a PC user trying to switch to Mac, and I am an amputee using the Dvorak Right-hand (DRH) keyboard layout. I found your DI Dvorak file with the help of a Mac shop person, and installed it. The trouble I'm having is that the right handed layout seems to be different from the layout I am used to in PC. Namely, the '4' is below the '1', and other differences. I'm really glad that you took the time to produce and publish this file, however I am interested in continuing to use the, as far as I can tell, original DRH layout. <br> > <br> > So, a couple questions (assuming that indeed I am seeing a difference between the layouts):<br> > <br> > Did you move keys around to improve the layout? <br> > <br> > Can I edit the file so that I can have the layout I am used to typing with? (Noting that I would also like to alter the location of the period key and a couple other punctuation keys)<br> > <br> > I would be happy to provide you more information regarding my problem, and I appreciate any time or attention you can provide, as I'm sure your time is valuable. <br> > <br> > Thank you,<br> > <br> > Tim Prior<br> <br> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br> <br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <table cellspacing=4px style="margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA " > <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD" href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwbWkzZDA3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1Nzk5ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4NTY0BG1zZ0lkAzM5MjMEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzU5NTc0Mjg0?act=reply&messageNum=3923">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; " > <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Dvorak%20Right-hand%2C%20Mac" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "> <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20Dvorak%20Right-hand%2C%20Mac" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; " > <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZWg3OWdlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1Nzk5ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4NTY0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM1OTU3NDI4NA--" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #2D50FD; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; " > <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/message/3923;_ylc=X3oDMTM0dmxvcHJuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1Nzk5ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4NTY0BG1zZ0lkAzM5MjMEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzU5NTc0Mjg0BHRwY0lkAzM5MjM-" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (1) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #f2f2f2; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> <li style="border-right: 1px solid #000; font-weight: 700; display: inline; padding: 0 5px; margin-left: 0;"> <span class="cat"><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcjV0bjhhBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1Nzk5ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4NTY0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEzNTk1NzQyODQ-?o=6" style="text-decoration: none;">New Members</a></span> <span class="ct" style="color: #ff7900;">1</span> </li> </ul> <div style="clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altkeyboards;_ylc=X3oDMTJldG12bDdzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1Nzk5ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4NTY0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTM1OTU3NDI4NA--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id="ygrp-grfd" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; padding: 15px 0;"> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> To Post a message, send it to: [email protected]<BR> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [email protected] <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcWVodTQwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1Nzk5ODIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4NTY0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMzU5NTc0Mjg0" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/yg/logo/us.gif" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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