Re: Re: Keyboard conversion kit
Marcus Brooks <[email protected]> Mon, 20 May 2013 06:17:52 -0500
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--PzJ4wxstpKSBroaTTpX2Sk8iXFMqFVsgjtsEp00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, you mean the IBM model M? I'm pretty sure the caps on that one are made to pop off and move around. (The key switches are angled so the caps all work on any row.) All the ones I used at IBM were like that. Otherwise your best bet is probably key labels (Hooleon or Fentek are names I remember). Then just select your layout in software. On May 19, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Draco Rat wrote: > Oh. The selectric was also a type of keyboard - not just a typewriter. I > thought we were talking about the keyboard. > > If it's the typewriter, then yeah, you'd have to get one that's modified. > > --Draco > > > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Marcus Brooks <[email protected]> wrote: > >> ** >> >> >> While the type ball conversion should work, I believe there was a full >> conversion scheme that fine-tuned the keypress tension, or something of >> that sort. >> >> I don't recall the conversion details, or why it was necessary. However, >> on the face of it an actual layout conversion would allow you to use any >> font for which a normal type ball was available. >> >> On the other hand, I can't think of a practical reason to use a Selectric >> anymore. I realize practicality isn't always a goal, but it's sort of tied >> in with the Dvorak rationale. An original Selectric might lose a lot of >> collector value if you modify it. >> >> >> On May 19, 2013, at 9:10 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >>> >>> right you would need the Dvorak selectric "Ball" and I suspect IBM may >>> have only made 20 of them..... >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 20 May 2013, S Bjornstad wrote: >>> >>>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 01:44:47 -0000 >>>> From: S Bjornstad <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: [altkeyboards] Re: Keyboard conversion kit >>>> >>>> Just thinking as if your keyboard is in Dvorak layout doesn't make the >> Selectric type in Dvorak... >>>> >>>> --- In [email protected], Draco Rat <dracorat@...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Who cares? >>>>> >>>>> I'm not being sarcastic. I say this because you really shouldn't be >> looking >>>>> at the keyboard as you type. Print out the layout, tape it to your >> monitor >>>>> and then look there when you need to know where a key is. >>>>> >>>>> Then just buy a regular selectric. >>>>> >>>>> Have fun! >>>>> >>>>> --Draco >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 7:00 AM, donaldraybon308 >>>>> <donaldraybon308@...>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello members, >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone know where I can buy an IBM Selectric with a Davorak >>>>>> >>>>>> keyboard,or a conversion kit? Please let me know, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Don >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >> >>> >>> To Post a message, send it to: [email protected] >>> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: >> [email protected]! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > To Post a message, send it to: [email protected] > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [email protected]! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --PzJ4wxstpKSBroaTTpX2Sk8iXFMqFVsgjtsEp00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>Oh, you mean the IBM model M? I'm pretty sure the caps on that one are made to pop off and move around. (The key switches are angled so the caps all work on any row.) All the ones I used at IBM were like that.<br> <br> Otherwise your best bet is probably key labels (Hooleon or Fentek are names I remember). <br> <br> Then just select your layout in software.<br> <br> On May 19, 2013, at 11:22 PM, Draco Rat wrote:<br> <br> > Oh. The selectric was also a type of keyboard - not just a typewriter. I<br> > thought we were talking about the keyboard.<br> > <br> > If it's the typewriter, then yeah, you'd have to get one that's modified.<br> > <br> > --Draco<br> > <br> > <br> > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Marcus Brooks <<a href="mailto:marcus%40mwbrooks.com">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > <br> >> **<br> >> <br> >> <br> >> While the type ball conversion should work, I believe there was a full<br> >> conversion scheme that fine-tuned the keypress tension, or something of<br> >> that sort.<br> >> <br> >> I don't recall the conversion details, or why it was necessary. However,<br> >> on the face of it an actual layout conversion would allow you to use any<br> >> font for which a normal type ball was available.<br> >> <br> >> On the other hand, I can't think of a practical reason to use a Selectric<br> >> anymore. I realize practicality isn't always a goal, but it's sort of tied<br> >> in with the Dvorak rationale. An original Selectric might lose a lot of<br> >> collector value if you modify it.<br> >> <br> >> <br> >> On May 19, 2013, at 9:10 PM, <a href="mailto:accessys%40smart.net">[email protected]</a> wrote:<br> >> <br> >>> <br> >>> right you would need the Dvorak selectric "Ball" and I suspect IBM may<br> >>> have only made 20 of them.....<br> >>> <br> >>> Bob<br> >>> <br> >>> <br> >>> On Mon, 20 May 2013, S Bjornstad wrote:<br> >>> <br> >>>> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 01:44:47 -0000<br> >>>> From: S Bjornstad <<a href="mailto:sobjornstad%40comcast.net">[email protected]</a>><br> >>>> Reply-To: <a href="mailto:altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a><br> >>>> To: <a href="mailto:altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a><br> >>>> Subject: [altkeyboards] Re: Keyboard conversion kit<br> >>>> <br> >>>> Just thinking as if your keyboard is in Dvorak layout doesn't make the<br> >> Selectric type in Dvorak...<br> >>>> <br> >>>> --- In <a href="mailto:altkeyboards%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a>, Draco Rat <dracorat@...> wrote:<br> >>>>> <br> >>>>> Who cares?<br> >>>>> <br> >>>>> I'm not being sarcastic. I say this because you really shouldn't be<br> >> looking<br> >>>>> at the keyboard as you type. Print out the layout, tape it to your<br> >> monitor<br> >>>>> and then look there when you need to know where a key is.<br> >>>>> <br> >>>>> Then just buy a regular selectric.<br> >>>>> <br> >>>>> Have fun!<br> >>>>> <br> >>>>> --Draco<br> >>>>> <br> >>>>> <br> >>>>> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 7:00 AM, donaldraybon308<br> >>>>> <donaldraybon308@...>wrote:<br> >>>>> <br> >>>>>> **<br> >>>>>> <br> >>>>>> <br> >>>>>> Hello members,<br> >>>>>> <br> >>>>>> Does anyone know where I can buy an IBM Selectric with a Davorak<br> >>>>>> <br> >>>>>> keyboard,or a conversion kit? Please let me know,<br> >>>>>> <br> >>>>>> Thanks,<br> >>>>>> <br> >>>>>> Don<br> >>>>>> <br> >>>>>> <br> >>>>>> <br> >>>>> <br> >>>>> <br> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br> >>>>> <br> >>>> <br> >>>> <br> >>>> <br> >>> <br> >>> <br> >>> ------------------------------------<br> >> <br> >>> <br> >>> To Post a message, send it to: <a href="mailto:altkeyboards%40eGroups.com">[email protected]</a><br> >>> To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to:<br> >> <a href="mailto:altkeyboards-unsubscribe%40eGroups.comYahoo">[email protected]</a>! 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