Re: Allnet A20 CAN controller

Well,

one shoud usually have the trunk in the car, I just didn't have the spare 
tyre in my previous car since the hanger for it had been removed..

Anyway, we use the phrase "pitäkää tunkkinne" sometimes in the office when 
seing companies / people who dont really to care to deliver what asked. 
Meaning in this case is that You can keep the "whatever", we dont want it.
It kind a lightens the atmosphere<g> 

Heikki went too deep (once again <g>), since I was just referring to 
manuals which use pages, if not dozens, to explain how CANopen works (SDO, 
LSS etc), but miss to have the description of the particular OD (and not 
even being compatible to a suitable device profile)

Sorry, last day of summer holiday, try to be more focused in the future, 
isto




kees




From:   [email protected]
To:     <[email protected]>
Date:   15.07.2014 12:31
Subject:        Re: [CANLIST] Allnet A20 CAN controller
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At least now I know I have to bring my own trunk next time I drive to 
Finland to prevent "pitäkää tunkkinne".

Cheers

Kees

[email protected] schreef op 15.07.2014 10:01:
> Yep,
> however, a useless manual is always a useless manual even if it would
> have been written about a coffee maker.
> Cheers, isto
>
> KEES
>
> From: [email protected]
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 15.07.2014 11:25
> Subject: Re: [CANLIST] Allnet A20 CAN controller
> Sent by: [email protected]
>
> -------------------------
>
> Hello,
>
> Sorry I believe all references to CANopen manuals are out of topic in
> this case. We are talking about a processor.
>
> Heinz, the reference to the CAN manual is:
>
> http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/A20/CAN%20Bus1.pdf [1]
>
> Kees Zagers
>
> heikki saha schreef op 15.07.2014 08:38:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Isto got the point. The most exciting in CANopen is, that device
>> profile number tells extremely
>> lot about the "marvellous product". If a product conforms an
>> appropriate device profile, basics
>> may be assumed to be OK. But, if the device does not conform any
>> profile, either vendor or device
>> or both are more or less out of sense.
>>
>> Among too many people there is too weak understanding, how important
>> is to support the standardized
>> system integration framework as well as possible. Almost each device
>> can be integrated by using
>> "brute force"-method, which leads too expensive and error-prone
>> production and service actions. Of
>> course the primary service of a device shall also meet the specs,
> but
>> problems in that area has been
>> in far better shape than in the system integration side.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> -H
>>
>> Heikki Saha, CTO
>> M.Sc. Automation
>> Dr.Tech. Electronics
>> TK Engineering Oy
>> Mail address: P.O. box 810, FIN-65101 VAASA
>> Visit address: Yrittäjänkatu 15, FIN-65380 VAASA
>> +358 (0)50 588 6894
>> [email protected]
>> http://www.tke.fi/
>> http://www.canopen.fi/
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "isto virtanen" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 7:00:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CANLIST] Allnet A20 CAN controller
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> completely off the topic.
>> This is one of those manuals which makes one say "pitäkää
> tunkkinne"
>> (keep You f... trunk)
>>
>> To explain a bit:
>> There was this one finnish humourish TV-serie, where in one sketch
>> guys had problems with a tyre in their car.
>> One of the guys started walking towards a house near by and while
>> walking started thinking things like: What if there is no one at
>> home,
>> what if they have a bad dog, what if they dont want to borrow the
>> trunk... and ended up throwing a rock through a window in the house
>> and yelling "pitäkää tunkkinne".
>>
>> Anyway, I have amazed several sensor manufacturers by asking them to
>> first send me the CANopen manual and not their marvellous product.
>> By reading the manual one can say pretty much about the company,
>> implemenatation and understanding of CANopen.
>> When manual sucks (like in this case) one really NEEDS to use the
>> product in order to continue the discussions.
>> I have seen couple of commercial manuals which made me feel sick.
>>
>> isto
>> btw, nice game on sunday.
>>
>>
>> Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
>>
>>
>> From: Heinz-Jürgen Oertel <[email protected]>
>> To: CANLIST <[email protected]>
>> Date: 07.07.2014 11:00
>> Subject: Re: [CANLIST] Allnet A20 CAN controller
>> Sent by: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am Montag, 7. Juli 2014, 00:00:45 schrieb Spam Spam:
>>> If you want the User manual for the A20 here is a link:
>>>
>>> http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/A20/A20%20User%20Manual%202013-03-22.pdf
> [2]
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>
>>
>> Hello John,
>> I am aware of this manual.
>> Look at page 823, chapter "6.16 CAN".
>> Only two pages describing CAN. Definitely not enough information.
>>
>> Regards
>> Heinz
>> --
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> On Sat, 7/5/14, Heinz-Jürgen Oertel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Subject: [CANLIST] Allnet A20 CAN controller
>>> To: "CANLIST" <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Saturday, July 5, 2014, 2:05 PM
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does someone know more detailed internals on the Allnet A20
>>> CAN module?
>>
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