Re: Test message

Heinz-Jürgen Oertel <[email protected]> Fri, 23 Aug 2019 12:02:31 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.hardware.bus.can
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Message-ID <1781881.lzz3Vab7ND@heinz>
Am Freitag, 23. August 2019, 11:48:16 CEST schrieb Kees Zagers:
> Hi John,
>=20
> In fact I'm retired, but for some reason working on CAN seems not to be
> dependant of age :-)
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> Also being social and not a very commercial type is not depending on age.
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> Kees


=46ully agree with you Kees,
greetings (You know to whom)

 Heinz

PS:
I always address to [email protected]
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> Op 23-8-2019 om 10:04 schreef John Dammeyer:
> > Hi Kees,
> > It's not only the CAN List that has become silent.  Seems most lists are
> > like that.  Google is your friend when it comes time to find both good
> > and really bad information.  And when you don't know what you don't know
> > it's hard to determine what is really bad.
> >=20
> > Add to that the Linux groups have aggressive users who chastise anyone =
who
> > asks a question that may have one good answer inside 1000 google report=
ed
> > really bad answers.  That makes people afraid to even ask on groups.  To
> > be told they haven't looked when they don't understand what is a good
> > answer is discouraging so they no longer ask.
> >=20
> > I think too, as someone I believe said on this list many many years ago=
,=20
> > companies allow their employees to read this list but not provide any
> > information that might teach a competitor something they don't know.  So
> > good answers done in a friendly fashion are now also rare.
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> > And there are so many other CAN lists.  Many with good information.
> >=20
> > The days where we willingly helped people without worrying about who th=
ey
> > were or whether they became richer appear to be gone.  Maybe I should be
> > happy I'm retiring soon.
> >=20
> > John Dammeyer
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:canlist-owner@vector-
> >> informatik.com] On Behalf Of Kees Zagers
> >> Sent: August-23-19 12:52 AM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [CANLIST] Test message
> >>=20
> >> After all reactions we can conclude that the list is working. I guess
> >> all questions which are asked by "beginners" or "non-professionals" ha=
ve
> >> been answered by the "professionals" and can be found on the Internet
> >> thanks to Google.
> >>=20
> >> And to Heinz: In my opinion CAN-FD has been adapted only by "CAN
> >> professionals" and professionals don't want to be seen as stupid and
> >> that is why they don't ask questions on the platform.
> >>=20
> >> BTW also the LinkedIn platform is very quiet.
> >>=20
> >> Just wanted to say a bit more than just YES.
> >>=20
> >> Regards
> >>=20
> >> --
> >> Kees Zagers
> >> SI-KWADRAAT B.V.
> >>=20
> >> Op 22-8-2019 om 14:45 schreef Heinz-J=EF=BF=BDrgen Oertel:
> >>> Am Dienstag, 20. August 2019, 18:32:22 CEST schrieb John Dammeyer:
> >>>> List has been very quiet.  Does it still work?
> >>>> John Dammeyer
> >>>=20
> >>> Hello John,
> >>>=20
> >>> the list is working, but silent. I think  all CANers are busy working=
 on
> >>> CAN FD
> >>>=20
> >>> regards
> >>>=20
> >>>     Heinz
> >>=20
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       Heinz-J=C3=BCrgen Oertel


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